I think it is a software problem not a hardware one. OR.. hdd's fault..
If u say u reinstalled the PC and it still does that crap, i would ask, what exactly did u reinstall? U mighthave reinstalled the same problematic software that was causing this. Id suggest reinstalling everything again, this time for experimental purposes maybe on an optical drive, and install only the game/games and drivers.. nothing else, no antiviruses nothing.. not even all the drivers are needed, not even the latest. Then try the games.. if u get good fps.. continue with installing everything else, then try again when everything is installed. And u might find ur trouble maker. Then reinstall everything back to SSD when ur sure it is not the SSD, though if everything works fine etc, then u might start blaming the SSD :P
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I run a gtx 670 and an i5 3570k, my performance is fine. No idea where yours is going wrong.
It is completely illogical to say "I know how stuff works" and not get that I explained your eyes only being able to perceive 30-60-120hz because of the rate of speed it can throw frames out which means the minor MINOR details you think is just your eye seeing low frames is actually incompleted frames even if you see 60FPS constantly you could be seeing anywhere from 1 to 10~ frames usually @ a sube 80% render but that flickers by in one sixtieth to 1 6th of a second, in turn the game looks amazing right but then you see joe schmo on a 120Hz monitor pushing 100~ frames again w/ anywhere from 1-10~ frames being not good so it just looks better cuz they are now gone in 1 one hundredth of a second or like 1 tenth, both of which are insanely faster and this makes it harder for our eyes to depict the imperfections. We do not SEE framerates and anything @ 30+ fps 100% will look like solid true motion.
Last edited by Milkshake86; 2012-12-31 at 11:23 PM.
Oh look, another fps debate.
It's not anyone's business to question my desire for over 60fps. Either try to help with the situation or don't post at all.
The answer is to stop throwing money at the problem hoping it will somehow magically fix it.
Where you claimed the same thing, but i've yet to find any mentioning of incomplete frames in the article. I think you misread this article:
http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_9.html into thinking it sends imcompleted frames, because it doesn't. What happens is that it sends a new frame to the buffer while the screen is still drawing the old image, visually it then appears like 2 half images (tearing). This is no error by the computer, or mistake, just a out-of-sync issue. The frames in the buffer are still perfectly fine, the screen just can't manage to refresh so fast. Something like this: http://i.imgur.com/cS5Yh.jpg
And again, stop attacking people personally or calling them incapable/stupid.
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Simply put if you cannot comprehend that a computer makes mistakes and will do incomplete work when its getting low on useable resources then you simply do not understand that I just said your PC will freeze up glitch and send out error reports instead of doing what it should have, but again you think the HARDWARE is intelligent, AHAHAHAHAHHAHA even in the TERMINATOR Skynet is nothing but SOFTWARE/FIRMWARE, the hardware is NOTHING without its software and firmware, wtf can you do on a full pc w/ no bios of any sort? No matching firmware absolutely NOTHING just hardware, its basically an EMPed pos, it in essence is a damned corpse being kept alive for organ transplant. Even the science fictional AI insanity is always the software because even a CPU is not capable of thought w/o the directive of its use, similar to if you were born completely brain dead you wouldnt know anything you probably can't see move hear feel touch etc all this crap goes w/ pc's WE created them and WE limit the potential and as of right now current hardware falters w/ current software, we just find these faults acceptable enough for use.
What would you call it when you go from 60 fps to 30? for a quarter of a second? I'd call it incompleted, and would you say a dropped frames is a completed frame or an incompleted one? Now understand when the PC gets a little choked but not severely, it will send 99% frames 90% frames because the actual detail loss to the eye is much more playable than a similar just screen lock looking situation.
Last edited by Milkshake86; 2013-01-01 at 04:17 PM.
The OP is posting problems that can not be fixed. You will not always have over 60 FPS in a MMO that is a fact. He has also created other threads about this issue and has not looked into the replies in the thread. He went against someone saying to not by a GTX 690 because it won't increase frames but he did exactly that.
I don't see the OP looking into our responses at all so this thread is near useless and has just sparked up an FPS debate.
Also, cut out the insults. If you can't express a point without insulting someone, your point isn't worth expressing. These are supposed to be some of the more level-headed parts of the forums.
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Damn you guys, we don't need ANOTHER debate about FPS over 60, they never end well.
BTW OP, you tried installing the game on a non-SSD drive? I ask because SSD tend to be "cheap" and not last long (specially previous generations) even tho they are very fast so using a good old mechanical hard disk for testing WoW might give surprising results.
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Last edited by Last Starfighter; 2013-01-02 at 02:56 AM.
Perfect example of why "community" forums are poisonous to the health of a development team. These developers are wasting hundreds of hours trying to stem the tide of incessant bitchery that would never, ever abate so long as these entitled, unfortunate human beings don't get their way.