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Sorry, you cannot stand there and claim there isn't a double standard in the Government, with products like Cigarettes and Alcohol on the market. We are in Prohibition v2.0 with Weed right now. It needs to stop and the misinformation needs to stop.
And the alcohol thing... nah I'd rather not. You know that anesthetic they give you at the dentist's when they pull a tooth? That shit makes me act like a total idiot, I can only imagine what I would do while drunk.
Edit: While it probably doesn't seem like it from the way I've been posting, I'm actually for legalizing weed. I don't like it, but as others have already pointed out it's really not deadly at all. I'm absolutely against hard drugs though.
Before leaping down my throat with your "Strawmen" line again, try considering the implications of the post I was actually responding to. When you respond to someone saying "Marijuana is not harmless" with "it has caused zero deaths", there are two possible implications: that you believe marijuana is harmless because it hasn't killed anyone, or that you acknowledge that it's potentially harmful but not as bad as other drugs which to lead to deaths. Based on the posts you had made up to that point, I assumed you were making the former implication. Clearly, you meant the latter... so for making an incorrect deduction based on what you had said up to that point, I apologize.
I never once said that the government is a moral authority, nor will I ever say such a thing. If I were the type to be offended in threads like this, I would be highly offended that you would even suggest such a belief on my part. Legality and morality are not in any way related. I linked four sources, only two of which were governmental inherently, as sources of other information. Of the sites you link, the best is cdc.gov, not because the government is a moral authority, but because they have little reason to lie (medicalmarijuana.procon.org is going to be as biased in favor of marijuana as drugwatch.org is against; I linked those sources only because they were easy to find.)
The only thing that you said that I set out to directly refute was that Marijuana has caused no deaths. Small sample size doesn't change the fact that you made an absolute statement; it would take only a single death to prove your statement wrong.
So, what do we have left? We both agree that Marijuana is less harmful than toboacco or alcohol, but is still potentially harmful. We both agree that it's less physically addictive than alcohol and tobacco, and in fact is less addictive even than caffeine. Given that I had already stated my position in support of legalization, I'm not really sure what's left that we disagree on, other than whether or not Marijuana has caused any deaths.
Edit: I suppose my philosophical/personal beliefs against using such things would be a point of disagreement, but as I don't expect others to abide by beliefs/philosophies I hardly think that counts.
(Mostly, I hate absolute statements like "Marijuana has caused zero deaths", because in general they're unlikely to be true. If you had said "Marijuana has caused fewer deaths than either Tobacco or Alcohol", I probably wouldn't have blinked an eye.)
Last edited by darkwarrior42; 2012-12-30 at 07:39 PM.
Btw endorfine is the drug your body produces when you feel happy. Drugs are part of life, part of evolution. Drugs have been around ever since the first primate, al trough evolution and human history.
You name a civilization, you can bet there was a drug around that was important to their economy(legal or illegal).
Even animals have been known to use drugs.
OP, just talk with her about it. Make sure she is safe and don't hound her over it, just let her know you are concerned and available if she wants to talk. The last thing you want to happen is her to feel like you're attacking her choices, if she is experimenting with drugs she needs someone who cares about her and she trusts in case things do take a turn for the worse. The worst thing you can do in this situation is make her feel like she can't trust anyone, I do not have any experience with drug experimentation but I have a hell of a lot with trust issues and can tell you it gets very bad when you don't even trust yourself.
Also, why does your friend having a bachelors in engineering have anything to do with this?
Though, from the numerous studies from peer reviewed medical journals, Weed is far more beneficial then harmful, in most cases.