You sir are a fool, If you dont understand what happened in the cold war then dont speak.
As for communism, i believe communism is a good thing, i however will never trust any 1 person to guide over it all and even if we get 1 good leager to begin with there will always be an evil person looking for power ready to swoop in and ruin it all, if you could find a way to prevent this, i would subcribe.
I'm not saying the whole civilized world is greedy, I'm saying the social system that is capitalism is wholly reliant on people being greedy.
And your logic must suck really bad if you think that's racism. Even if i said the Western world is greedy, it wouldn't be racism because i'm not discriminating against any racial group. So please, learn what the word means rather than than defending someone who's using a cheap opportunity to personally attack me for absolutely no reason.
Edit: I'd also like to add i was referring to Sweden as an example of a country that has more people that are altruistic enough for communism than those that are greedy enough for capitalism. Not a pseudo-communist totalitarian system like China or North Korea for which we have no idea how altruistic people are there. So i wasn't even drawing a West-East parallel.
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'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
No, it's not. Some people just don't realized how bad it was, because they were likely party members and/or snitches. Like the people that used to run the stores in my town. They stole stuff and used to treat people like shit, because they had a little power. Now i can just walk 3 minutes to the next store, but when everything is state owned? What then?
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You can easily compare greed levels of a country by looking at it and comparing its debt levels to a poor country. Lets say America - Africa, if Africa was given 15 trillion dollers to fix its house and basically copy America in every sense, to build proper hospitals schools and businesses, how many lives would be saved and changed for ever. This is a good comparison because you can say well look at the huge contrast, in the two look at what could happen and how many lives could be saved.
I would not say its greed, i would say they dont want to know, they know but they dont want to know, because if its not staring you in the face you dont care about it, so lets fix what we ca see and what we are responsible, in communism i believe they have a different method, which is everyone stands together and instand one 1 continent having 15 trillion in debt they each have 7.5, and they work for they basis.
but as i said i would not rush into communism by any stretch of the imagination.
Which is kinda the same that happens with the world giving loans to US that no one really forces the US to pay back.
Lets not forget that US had the biggest external debt per capita before the big European Crisis.
The problem with Capitalism is that is better for a few, and worse for another few.
The problem with communisn is that is to prone to corruption and corrupted leaders can subjugate their people easier.
The problem with capitalism is that the power tends to end in economic groups, that cant be changed by the people even if they wanted to, goverments often have to concede things to this economic powers and they get "commisions" in exchange.
Free market is a lie, not even US have complete free market, the probelm is that the controls on the markets need to be balanced.
If you gave $15 trillion to Africa, you'd be $15 trillion poorer and nothing significant would change for Africa. Africa's problems aren't from a lack of money. They're from cultural issues and a hostile environment.
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Calling me stupid and making baseless assumptions about my understanding of science doesn't really serve to make a point.
'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
Eh, a bit uncalled for; I'm sure Reeve understands it. It's just very intuitive to think that it's existence is only proven (in the lay sense) when scientists say they discovered it. Of course, physicists were looking for it because they agree it existed from maths done 5 decades ago, but yeah.
Meanwhile in Capitalism leaders live with the exact same style of living than their people, right?
There isnt a single rich leader while people in his country die of hunger, right?
Want to know a funny thing? No one dies of hunger in Cuba for example (and by this i dont say Cuba is perfect), while plenty of people dies of hunger in every single capitalist country you can name.
Capitalysm has its problems, many of them, but social injustice is nto one of them, Capitalysm has by farm a lot more social injustice.
The biggest problem of Communism is lack of freedom.
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