Wow look at those biased poll choices. I love Sylvanas and the lore around her. To compare her to the mindless beast Garrosh is an insult to her intellect.
The humans causes have always been righteous, and peaceful. It wasnt until the savage horde destroyed our homeland and raped and pillaged our homes that we defended our freedoms. Warcraft 2 Opening cut scene. Watch it.
Point of View and Perspective are everything. So the Horde rapes and pillages your homeland. Does it "justify" you doing the same to theirs? If my friend kills your friend, so you kill him in exchange, do I have the right to kill you now? Reading other posts you made, doesn't surprise me, Jaylock. Sometimes I wonder if you even have time to play the game, with all the time you waste making/contributing to threads like this. :-P
A small team is sent to rescue Anduin. The forces we see now in 5.1 are those sent to defeat the Horde and protect Pandaria. So no there have not been countless deaths at all. Also I'd really wouldn't use the term "not thinking about the big picture" when the fact is that is precisely what Anduin's destiny has been since Velen prophesied it.
The guy's now a very principled leader who absolutely knows right from wrong and definitely is wise enough to see what state the Horde is right now and that it is not representative of what the Horde could be under a better leader. He is truly a breath of fresh air for Alliance players and particularly fans of Warcraft's Humans who for the longest time have been characterised by their worst traits, so having a leader who is wise, noble, compassionate and good is great. Him dying is the last thing the story needs at this moment.
Meanwhile Sylvanas is being developed in the complete opposite direction. She is going deeper and deeper down a dark path that is so far leaving a very dark stain on the Horde considering what the aim was for Thrall's Horde, and aim that is the Horde's goal by the end of MoP after it's cast off Garrosh. Sylvanas doesn't really have a place in that Horde.
Before Sylvanas can be killed she needs to find redemption or she will end up in the same place as Arthas. Die now and she ends up in a hell like existence, the same fate as Arthas. The only possible solution is to have her save her own soul (not sure if that's even possible) so that when she die's she goes to heaven and will no longer resist her fate. The only other loose thread that would stop her is the fate of the undead army after she is gone. I don't know how much she would care for them if she was ensured entry into heaven, as she seems to only use them to protect her from her own destiny.
Nobody in the Alliance likes or revered Arthas after what he did, least of all Humans and Dwarves.
Garithos on the other hand hasn't been mentioned by the Alliance since WoW started so I don't know where you're getting this "martyr" deal from. If anything the fact he hasn't been mentioned at all indicates that the Humans want to disassociate themselves from him and to simply not remember such a bigoted man.
I still don't see what's wrong with claiming your land, extend it and defend it. The Forsaken can do that however they want, if it's mass genocide, whatever. If you don't want get killed by their onslaught, get away from it, or bring an army that's stronger than the Forsaken to beat them, good luck with that alliance
Jaylock, your poll needs a "Kill them both" option.
This is what I would be in favor of. I have no real reason other than killing major lore characters sounds like fun. For that matter, we should toss in some alliance leaders too... Like, um, Mangi. All he has done is sit there, encased in some mineral. Seems kinda lame if you ask me. Kill him too! Oh and Varian for good measure. He has become far too level headed for my taste.
The Scarlet Crusade
The nice thing about Warcraft is that it's mostly in shades of gray. Humans are hardly angels, nor is the horde all demons. Those three literally took me less than three seconds to think of and write down as examples of humans whose causes were not righteous nor peaceful and were tyrants and or murderers.
Nice to see such biased poll options. Sylvanas is fine. If she dies, the last cool character will be dead.
Last edited by Scathbais; 2013-01-03 at 10:28 PM.
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