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(Warframe) - Gold Tiger & Typhoon-
(Neverwinter) - Trickster Rogue & Guardian Fighter -
I can agree with people that the quality of PvP has notably gone down since the launch of F2P, but that is always to be expected when there's a large influx of new players.
Some people are just silly and seem to actually believe that subscribing magically gives you more skill.
Personally I'm not a fan of F2P-people, but I don't go yell about it like some others do.
Last edited by Ashaela; 2013-01-05 at 06:58 PM.
Well.. sorry to say but f2p are earning their "epic" reputation, at least on some realms I've checked. Three general examples:
- entering warzones in green shit, NO idea about whats going on, brainless activity, no listening to more experienced players (I do not mean myself, but for example full EWH gear + 90+ Valor). Sry but when I see player in GREENS entering Wz (where you get recruit for free, which mean someone do not know how to deliver quest which is 2 meters away...) I rly rly wish there was friendly fire so I could end that persons misery earlier than enemies:P
- gathering group for heroic 2,4 when they are in the middle of it, making their own quest done then "sry i have to go" -quit (NEVER happened with subbers for me).
- "I am idiot, deal with it" playstyle - no offence but seriously, most f2p people act as if f2p give them some magical "dumb" title and everyone should bow before, help, explain, stroke them and they do not need to do a shit cause they are f2p players... no, sry if you act like an idiot do not expect people to treat you otherwise...
Generaly speaking, fromy my point of view (and it's only mine point I do not treat is as an absolute) after f2p general level of playstyle has greatly felt down, many ,many,MANY utterly bad players making mentioned mistakes.. so f2p-ers, if you want to be treated differently than now - earn it, do not demand it..
PS. I am rly, newbie tolerative... everyone has a limit though
But going based off of your statement, I'm pretty sure if you picked up any F2P game and were a F2P player, you wouldn't get customer service. Even if you bought something, you'd still receive minimal customer service. See? It works both ways.
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I played WoW for like 4 years And i cannot agree that paying has nothing to do. Sub is a filter: It's less likely the player I spoke before will enter the game he has to pay for, that the game he does not have to pay.. I'd have to chose to play crappy, make an idiot of myself and such and pay for it or not to pay the choice is obvious. At least that is how I observed it in my like 8 years mmo experience. But as i told, this is only my observations.
F2P cannot use Epic level gear, some of the green gear is the best they can get.
There is a LOT of new people playing. When they are F2P, there really is now way for them to learn. Limited chat capabilities in game, and you cannot post questions on the forums. Even the WOW level 20 free trial gives access to post in the new player forums.
Sure, you can buy a weekly pass. What for though? You can't equip any of the epic level gear. So whats the point. I am curious what the sales numbers are for them. If you are going to spend $10 a month for WZ passes, you need your brain examined because you're a moron. You're better off then just paying the extra $5 a month for full access.
I've seen more idiots that are subscribers playing tbh. Before F2P: people running the ball the wrong way in Huttball, wrong gear itemization, no pvp gear, etc.
And just because it's less likely that a player will pay for a sub as opposed to not pay doesn't mean that player is a better player. It may be a filter, but it's not a filter for quality of play. That's like saying someone who buys a Ferrari is more likely to be a better driver because the high price tag is a filter. In reality, it just means that's what somebody chose to spend their disposable income on.
There were also several other things on this list that can in no way be lifted without a subscription.
Even the things you can "buy with credits" are nearly impossible since just about every greedy person on the GTN sells them above the credit limit (which is one of those things that cannot be lifted)
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Just like all those people who I swear would sacrifice thier lives then admit that the F2P experience/game is terrible. Can't complain even one bit about the preposterous amounts of restrictions without some jerk going "Well then play another game if you hate it so much"
Doesn't really surprise me, sounds about like what happened with the SWG player base. A rather large part of the player base got really hateful when people started leaving for other games because the SWG Devs just weren't delivering. Some how the players leaving were blamed for abandoning the community and it turned into a very Us vs Them mentality. Seemed like every poor update or patch that ran people off made it worse.
Obviously not everyone was like that, some people were happy to see you come back, but I can remember going back several times to my old server to only be given the cold shoulder. Right after the NGE it was really bad.
Some people will always find reasons to slag others off. Gear, achievements, nationality... you name it. Subscription status is just another excuse