You know why the devs are continuing to add daily quests in each patch? Because despite the vocal minority, most players ENJOY having daily quests. The devs react to data, not to crying.
In vanillla, hybrids could only heal (except warriors, who were special snowflakes). (
I didn't read that has Absolutely, not a single hybrid, every played anything but healer. The general message and what the whole MMO thread was about, is that if you were in a real raiding guild, and a Hybrid, odds were pretty much that you healed. If you were the exception to the rule that's great, but looking at the discussion at hand about Hybrids and their roles. I still don't see how that statement is consider grossly off.
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The thing that amazes me about the people who cry for the firing of GC and every dev who wasn't part of Vanilla/TBC is that they somehow believe that these people blatantly ignore what is best for their game just because some people ask for it. These players actually believe that the devs (Ghostcrawler in particular) have no idea what people want and they are completely willing to ignore everything and sabotage their own game. That is absolutely mind-blowing to me.
..."majority" means his ego...
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And before you get to mention it, he did try the forum thing. The haters managed to get that shut down pretty quickly.
In regards to this argument about the "majority"... we don't get to make this argument because we lack data to back it up. Blizzard has all the data, and even if they don't use it, they can still say that their decisions are based off this data. The fact that the data is available to them means that it ISN'T hypocritical for them to be using the majority argument, despite how truthful it may be. Honestly, it seems like people are just looking for reasons to hate. Everyone seems to think that they are so much better at balancing shit than blizzard is, and that blizzard is somehow ruining their own game... if you step back and look at how you came to this belief, then you might just realize how wrong such a notion is.
When a player user the argument "the majority agrees with me", it's made up and not a strong argument.
The developers look at the feedback they get and make design decisions based on what the majority of the feedback says.
They don't make a decision and than say that's what the majority wants.
They first check what the majority wants and than make the decision!
The simple fact is that Ghostcrawler can't say they aren't interested in majority arguments when they clearly are and they use them all the time themselves. It makes them look like hypocrits and it's disigenous in the extreme. They are of course interested in majority arguments because if the majority doesn't like a system they implement they will move to correct or change it.
And that feedback is useless.What they usually say is that my friends don't like somethign, I don't like it and lots of people on the forum don't like it. That may not be a majority but it does show a trend, a significant enough trend that you can make a case a sizeable chunk don't like whatever it is that their currently bitching about. That is more or less what the developers do anyway. They just call it "Overwhelming feedback" or some other name.
Anyone can say that everyone he knows agrees with him, but there is no way to check that.
Let's use this example:
Removal of flying mounts!
Random Twitter poster: "All my friends and guildies think they should be removed."
Is that showing a trend?
Even if he is telling the truth and they really think like that?
Even when a poll on MMO-C gives us 80% on the people who want to keep them?
You don't know what a majority-argument is.The simple fact is that Ghostcrawler can't say they aren't interested in majority arguments when they clearly are and they use them all the time themselves. It makes them look like hypocrits and it's disigenous in the extreme. They are of course interested in majority arguments because if the majority doesn't like a system they implement they will move to correct or change it.
I love how people want this guy fired. You guys are....arrogant to say the least.
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I think it is a great tweet and I fully support it. Adding, "everyone knows" to your opinion, or "everyone wants" to your request, serves no purpose. Just say your opinion and don't invoke claims of representing the majority.
I for one value the straight talking approach GC uses on twitter. Being carefully handled by a PR department results in boring and unproductive conversations.
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There, will that shut you up about using the term "overwhelming feedback" in everything you've posted in this thread?