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  1. #201
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    Wow, you really think that people will leave a game because of twits of some random man? I doubt it. Even if this random man is lead designer, I don't care about anything he says.
    People (I mean those, who don't butthurt about GC and him being a lead designer, but those who actually plays a game) read these clueless twits and laughs, because GC says exactly same thing, you would say to these trolls. At least he is one of casual players, and most of these clueless posters with their reckless solutions about game balance like "NERF FROST MAGES TO THE GROUND AND MADE THEM UNPLAYABLE" or "REWORK THE WHOLE FROST SPEC COMPLETELY SO PEOPLE WHO ENJOY GAMEPLAY WILL REROLL OR QUIT GAME" wannabe hardcore players, are just bandwagons who gets carried by guild/raid and posts only to get attention to them, not to an actual problem.
    Do you think that they just surf wow forums and answer on questions whole day? Or forum is their main source of their statistics and feedbacks? People who actually try to improve a game, never will post on forums, but will send them email.
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  2. #202
    Quote Originally Posted by Attsey View Post
    How does being rude to customers have anything but a negative effect?
    To suggest it will get more players to subscrible is ridiculous.
    He has never been rude in any of his tweets. Sarcastic sometimes? Yes, but never rude nor snide. People just love to twist his comments and in turn try really hard to get themselves "offended."

    Have you seen the garbage he gets daily? Beat-up threats, calls for him to get fired, etc. It is amazing that he puts up with these every day and still maintains his composure and doesn't snap like Tseric did way back then. This man has master-level Zen training I tell ya.

    Besides, he is being paid to design the game, he is not a Community Manager, he is not Customer Relations, he is not Support. A lot of trolls don't get that. He could immediately cease all communication right now from Twitter (and he is considering it BTW), Forums, etc, and he would still work and get paid at Blizzard. But he stills maintains direct communication with the players out of his own choice.

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    All people I know who play wow are older then 30! All horde players!
    All people ALL my friends know that play wow are older than 30! All horde players.

    There goes the 12 year horde-player statement.

    OT: I personally don't like the way GC answers and defends his ideas. I wouldn't say he needs to be fired maybe he needs a bit more freedom when deciding the direction of the game; maybe he is being directed too much in regard the direction and pacing of the game. I don't know really.
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    Quote Originally Posted by corebit View Post
    He has never been rude in any of his tweets. Sarcastic sometimes? Yes, but never rude nor snide. People just love to twist his comments and in turn try really hard to get themselves "offended."

    Have you seen the garbage he gets daily? Beat-up threats, calls for him to get fired, etc. It is amazing that he puts up with these every day and still maintains his composure and doesn't snap like Tseric did way back then. This man has master-level Zen training I tell ya.

    Besides, he is being paid to design the game, he is not a Community Manager, he is not Customer Relations, he is not Support. A lot of trolls don't get that. He could immediately cease all communication right now from Twitter (and he is considering it BTW), Forums, etc, and he would still work and get paid at Blizzard. But he stills maintains direct communication with the players out of his own choice.
    *against activision-blizzards choice

    While I have no issues agreeing with ghostcrawler being the leader in the team that did some amazing things for this game (the word balance not existing pre-wrath), could really do without his arrogance as he basically treads on parts of the community he doesn't like.

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    I dislike GCs way of handeling things. Not because he is rude or sarcastic or anything. I couldn't care less about that.
    Many comments of GC make it seem like he doesn't know wtf is going on. If he just cannot communicate well or if he really doesn't know basic WoW things or if he sometimes just lies I am not sure. Yet he always feels the need to make comments.

    GC seems to me like the too talkative CEO of a big company that is completely detached from the product itself.

    In contrast (although I personally view D3 as a failure) I always had the feeling that bashiok knew what he was talking about. I don't feel that with GC at all and that is my problem with him.
    Last edited by gend; 2013-01-07 at 12:35 PM.

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    I do like his sarcastic marks, but sometimes we really need answers. Like understanding why an extremely strong class is getting buffed. Sure for PvE, but he adds onto the feeling I have that the devs of WoW don't PvP outside BGs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TonyIommi View Post
    I don't understand, the developers use majority arguments all the time, they just call it "overwhelming feedback"
    Well if the overwhelming feedback is actually helpful and not just the blatant whining it makes sense...

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-07 at 02:32 PM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Yourcatdead View Post
    I do like his sarcastic marks, but sometimes we really need answers. Like understanding why an extremely strong class is getting buffed. Sure for PvE, but he adds onto the feeling I have that the devs of WoW don't PvP outside BGs.
    Well tbh I doubt if weNEED answers but even so, I do believe that if they have the answers they would provide them.
    PVP is not my cup of tea so hard for me to judge that area, but for the rest I think GC and Blizz in general are doing one heck of a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mad_Murdock View Post
    I can tell you this. The majority of people who plays Horde are 12 year olds. Oddly, Blizzard can show\prove to you something different. Yet ALL my friends have confirmed, the majority of Horde players they know are 12 year olds.
    Haha, you hit the nail right on spot here.

    Read this quote and next time think about this before you go nerd rage because you lost a game. (Please feel offended if this offended you)

  9. #209
    Ghostcrawler is, quite honestly, the best thing to ever happen to this game. I remember when we had a direct line of communication with him during early WotLK. It was fantastic. We got open, candid, intelligent discussion about the game, we were able to provide direct feedback to the developers... It was a beautiful thing.

    Then immature wastes of space came in and shouted at him because he wasn't doing exactly what they wanted, blamed him for everything that went wrong (ignoring that he works as part of a team), and generally wasted his time with noise and garbage.

    So that stopped. The devs tried to treat us with respect, the community threw it back into his face.

    Now we're trying again with Twitter. Mostly it's going well, but again, some idiots in the community are trying to ruin it. Again. Just stop it.

    Stop getting offended. Stop hyper-analyzing everything he says. Stop looking for insults when there weren't any. He's just trying to get proper, reasoned feedback: he's not trying to insult people.

    Grow up, stop getting offended over every little thing. You may just be happier for it, and we'll keep an open line of communication with one of the better development teams in gaming. Win win situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Last Starfighter View Post
    Ghostcrawler has to deal with passive/aggressive angry nerds. There is no way possible to come away from that unscathed. He could send every player in wow a check for a million dollars, and people would bitch that they can't cash it because they don't have a checking account, and demand cash instead. And then call him an asshole.
    We know what happens when a CM cracks under pressure. It is not pretty.
    Not pretty at all.
    Never forget Tseric. Remember his final posts?


    First post

    When you can understand how a group of belligerent and angry posters can drive away people from this game with an uncrafted and improvisational campaign of misery and spin-doctoring, then perhaps, you can understand the decisions I make. Until you face mobs of psychology, you will not see my side.

    Until you see some bright-eyed player coming onto the forums wanting to know what they should spec as this class, and see them shat on and driven away by petty and selfish people who are simply leveraging for game buffs, you will not understand.

    You will not understand until you have to see it daily, for years...

    Until you understand that many people will trod over you to get where they're going, or to get what they want.

    Until you understand that so many people will agree, completely, 100% with a loud, vulgar and assertive individual, not because he is right, but because he is making a stand against "the Man"; to take no critical thought in what they say, but simply to hop on board.

    Until you actually try to acknowledge those who do not speak on the forums, for whatever reason they have, you will not understand.

    If you think an archaic business formula like "the customer is always right" works, you fail to understand customers, not a customer. It is a collective. No one person, even myself, is truly above the whole.

    I simply have the unfortunate quality of being easily singled out.


    Second post

    Can't help it.
    Posting impassionately, they say you don't care.
    Posting nothing, they say you ignore.
    Posting with passion, you incite trolls.
    Posting fluff, you say nonsense.
    Post with what facts you have, they whittle down with rationale.
    There is no win.
    There is only slow degradation.
    Take note. It is the first and only time you'll see someone in my position make that position.
    You can be me when I'm gone.



    While not necessarily about Tseric, you may recall the Jar of Ashes in Hellfire Peninsula:

    "Here is a jar of ashes. These are the ashes of my sanity, my passion, and my drive. All, utterly destroyed by themselves. May all those who look upon these desolated lands of Hellfire remember this fallen peon. He shed blood for the Alliance, and sacrificed for the Horde only to be driven utterly mad by the wicked and soulless ones who devoured what he held most dear. As they feast from his toils, may they suffer his wrath. Maybe not in this world, but in every world hereafter. It is my declaration, my solemn oath, and my everlasting promise. I will avenge my suffering."
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    I think iBlizzard would be better off, to not just reserve the right to refuse service to anyone, but to execute the right in a few hundred (it ain't more than that) cases, and kick some douche bags out of the contract.
    Or.... Alternatively, Blizz could do what every other big company does in the genre.... Not communicating at all. Don't give a rats ass about what the people actually think.
    Offer them a product, they can either take or leave it. No discussion. No time to talk to little douche bags. Business is more important.

    Wait... What's Blizzard doing? Offering a communication platform, putting up with douche bags on a daily basis.
    And yet again, continues to offer just that,...... Meanwhile a bunch of brats either forgets, or never understood, that WoW is just a product, and not a "I make my own game" project.

    I'm not happy with everything in the game. I am sure I would do some things a lot different. But I still don't act like a self entitled ass bag, I rather appreciate the chance to communicate with the responsible people. And often enough they in fact listen.

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    Seems like half of the braindeads who want him fired don't even know he answers on twitter on his free time or on breaks, not on paid hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon9870 View Post
    And mine shrinks.

    Twice he's made proposals to change L90 Mage talents, and both times they didn't make it into PTR but DID make it into the notes. He also continues to say that the L90 talents are an issue, but then goes and says "Mage mechanics are fine". I can't respect a hypocrite, a liar, and someone who just doesn't give a fuck :\
    In the last 10 days there has been only one day where he didn't communicate with players on Twitter.
    Is that a man who 'just doesn't give a fuck'?

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