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    Finally new custom

    PC!

    Hello MMOChamp community! I have been a fan of mmo for years now, though I do not post much this one is sprsrsbidnezz! I finally after 7 years am building a new PC for gaming, and I will occasionally hook it up to the plasma in the living room for entertainment and gaming! So I do need opions! it has been while since I did anything major like this..

    I do want to stick with the AMD 8 Core 4ghz just cause I have been a fan of AMD for so long not sure why they have been good for rendering 3d scenes for me too as well! I will be using my old nvidia 550 card for the moment(Plan on getting the 690 soon). I am flexible on price would like to go cheaper but if it is worth it I can always go up, Currently at 1402.89.

    Do favor speed though and enjoy games at max setting ^_^

    I am so sorry though I cannot post links >.<

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128514
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139010
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819113284
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145330
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    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16832416552
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103100

    Thank you so much for thoughts and opinions!

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    Sorry apparently I can post links thought I couldn't! again I apologize!

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    i would go with an i5 3570k, in gaming benchmarks the i5 still holds a good lead over the improved 8350.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
    in the two CPU based games(wow,sc2) on their the i5 holds a large lead over the amd counterpart.

    i like the PSU choice. the ram is overkill, i doubt you would ever need that fan unless you took OCing to the next level.

    im assuming the SSDs are just suggestions, and you arent looking to get all 3? i think there is a reason that 10k rpm HDDs arent too common, i would imagine it is insanely loud, and its super expensive.

    that cooler is made for HTPCs and very slim cases, if that is what you need then fine, but performance wise there are better options available for the price if you have the space.
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    OP, mind using the build over here? (http://pcpartpicker.com/)
    makes for those good overview lists of parts and prices when you link it.
    also any reason why an AMD cpu over an intel one? (from gaming perspective not recommened but for rendering you could also threat yourself to a nice i7?)

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    ehhh, gaming wise an i5 dominates the 8350, even more so if you want to get a 690. For rendering as Shroudster pointed out, a i7 would be quite nice.

    I'm no expert but AMD processors have been known in the past to bottleneck high end graphics solutions. I'm not sure if it would be the case here, but i'd imagine it's a possibility since bulldozer / vishera are barely faster than deneb and thuban (from what i've seen) which had the issues.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmacphee9 View Post
    i would go with an i5 3570k, in gaming benchmarks the i5 still holds a good lead over the improved 8350.
    http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/697?vs=701
    in the two CPU based games(wow,sc2) on their the i5 holds a large lead over the amd counterpart.

    i like the PSU choice. the ram is overkill, i doubt you would ever need that fan unless you took OCing to the next level.

    im assuming the SSDs are just suggestions, and you aren't looking to get all 3? i think there is a reason that 10k rpm HDDs arent too common, i would imagine it is insanely loud, and its super expensive.

    that cooler is made for HTPCs and very slim cases, if that is what you need then fine, but performance wise there are better options available for the price if you have the space.
    Hey! Well I was thinking the 80GB was for the OS drive, the 180GB would be for a few games and apps such as WoW but will be getting Black Ops 2 and a few others, and using 3dsMAX, Adobe products and Maya. And the 600GB for storage, noise really isnt an issue I really dont know why I chose this I currently have a 250GB and its just under half full. 10Krpm for the speed and I seen alot of good reviews on that hard drive as far as speed wise and access times.

    Although I am still doing research, I may have to go the intel route sorry AMD

    Oh as far as the ram went I went to the manufactures website of the mobo and that was one of the supported ram modules and it was something quick I picked on newegg. was aiming for around 16GB 3d scenes can get crazy once and a while.

    I do like that power supply although I do not see myself running SLI anytime soon, one 690 would be legit for now.

    Aghhhh so many choices though it is really hard building a custom PC picking out every component its just not like sprite or 7up or something that easy.

    Back to researching and looking,

    I really thank you all for the thoughts and opinions it all helps so much!

    Oh did not notice the heat sink just saw AM3+ compatible was kind of a quick pick more or less =/

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    Bump! lol im stumped!

    Im sticking with AMD though im stubborn I know

    im also thinking of just getting a SSD for the OS and a fast 1TB HDD?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceroner View Post
    Bump! lol im stumped!

    Im sticking with AMD though im stubborn I know

    im also thinking of just getting a SSD for the OS and a fast 1TB HDD?
    Why buy a 690 if you want to skimp on a CPU that is comparable to 1. generation i5 when it comes to gaming? Look, "sticking with AMD" is only an option if you can't afford the aforementioned parts like 3 SSD's and a 690. Want 8 cores? Go i7, the i7's 8 core is much more 8 core than the FX8350's 8 cores (2 in reality).

    Problems you will run into with AMD:

    Rendering takes a long time. Seriously long.
    Even file transfers takes longer for some reason.
    Encoding videofiles will turn your computer to slug.
    Getting above 55FPS in MMO's will be close to impossible. You will also note your 690 isn't performing as it should since it's being bottlenecked.
    Slow starting OS compared to intel CPU's, negating the effect of the SSD.

    Best part about all of this? It costs more than a better intel CPU! Fantastic!

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    Well lets be honest here, comparing amd to intel is like comparing an apple to an apple, or an orange to an orange. When it comes down to it and the bottom line they both do the same exact thing. Then it just becomes what is your favorite color in a sense. You can build a very good computer using intel chipsets and amd. The real problem is compatibility with all the components a good one is motherboard and ram for instance. But so many options ugh!

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    Not really true. When it comes to gaming, comparing the two would be more like comparing a Ferrari to a VW, the VW will do the job but the Ferrari will basically blow it away. And in the case of the 8350 it's more like comparing an apple to a half eaten apple at full price.

    Easy choice for intel: 3570K, it will be so much better and it is even cheaper. Being biased doesn't pay off in the long run. Get what offers most value for money and does the job you want it to do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceroner View Post
    Well lets be honest here, comparing amd to intel is like comparing an apple to an apple, or an orange to an orange. When it comes down to it and the bottom line they both do the same exact thing. Then it just becomes what is your favorite color in a sense. You can build a very good computer using intel chipsets and amd. The real problem is compatibility with all the components a good one is motherboard and ram for instance. But so many options ugh!
    It really isn't, Intel is way ahead when it comes to IPC and Single thread performance. This can be seen when it comes to gaming, mostly MMOs.
    AMDs FX series is good when it comes to multithreaded applications and such though.
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    So, found this I am seriously considering the i5 3570 now

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/t...x4300-tested/2

    From what I understand alot of software even now still have a hard time implementing multithreaded features and/or cores?

    Its just the proof is in the pudding, but shit AMD went down the drain, uhm yea I am definitely liking the i53570 though

    Should last me a while yes? at least 2+ years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aceroner View Post
    So, found this I am seriously considering the i5 3570 now

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/t...x4300-tested/2

    From what I understand alot of software even now still have a hard time implementing multithreaded features and/or cores?

    Its just the proof is in the pudding, but shit AMD went down the drain, uhm yea I am definitely liking the i53570 though

    Should last me a while yes? at least 2+ years?
    i dont think its the software not understanding it, its the software not needing 8 cores. it is turning out to be a real dud(commercially at the very least, some may argue other points) by amd, and it looks like they are going to try and ride out there APUs for now(at least they are interesting.) no popular game that i know of uses more then 2 cores without affinity software, and even with it the FPS difference is minimal or worse in most games.

    and yes 2+ years minimally.
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