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    Dat shit cray
    Perfect example of why "community" forums are poisonous to the health of a development team. These developers are wasting hundreds of hours trying to stem the tide of incessant bitchery that would never, ever abate so long as these entitled, unfortunate human beings don't get their way.

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    This had nothing to do with 100% avoidance. It was done using a now fairly well known exploit, involving a bug with high damage reduction cooldowns (mastery stacked Shield of the Righteous) and vengeance calculation. I'm not going to mention the details here since you're not allowed to explain exploits on mmo-champion, but it's available in the usual parts of the internet should you get curious.

    It was reported over 3 months ago by Splosion (the 80 Pally who discovered it and solo'ed LK25H) but nothing was done about it. Hopefully now that a current-tier raid boss has been killed, Blizzard will jump into action and finally fix it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foto View Post
    There is no gimmick block @ 62.73%, parry @ 43.43%, dodge @ 8.05%, together well over 100% so he can't be hit, also well over hit capped with vengeance stacks he''ll heal for just ridiculous amounts
    62% block from Mastery isn't that insane due to the scaling, but it should indicate that they would take some hits. Even if they blocked for 30%, they should still take damage that would kill them. The problem is that Word of Glory scaling is massive when it comes to vengeance. The reason this is a problem is because it's tightly integrated with the MoP Paladin tanking model. To fix it requires changes to said model.

    Quote Originally Posted by Azrile View Post
    I am fairly certain they are going to nerf vengeance. They probably still do not want lvl 80s soloing Cata raids.
    They nerfed vengeance once before, which completely broke Protection soloing Sunwell bosses like Brutallus (because the meteor slash is magic damage, you don't gain as much vengeance as you did before the change). It also made many bosses in content above that easier to solo as retribution, simply because although you sacrifice some survivability, your damage is that much higher that most bosses are dead long before you're even close to dying (with the exception of a few hard hitters where protection survival comes out on top), and you've still got enough self healing to offset most of the damage they do (in lieu of block).

    It's not vengeance that needs nerfing, not any more than it already has been. It simply needs to be that the scaling at lower levels isn't so high, or there's a hard cap on avoidance per level (at least until the diminishing returns associated with level 85+ start to kick in), or that they simply stop people below specific levels from entering specific raids. The last one is probably the better solution as it doesn't break anything it shouldn't. The former ones are ugly situations, but nerfing both those potentially breaks the class in content it might be doing legitimately.
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    I'm all for the removal of raid group to enter a raid instance (hated having to have someone log onto an alt soI could kill TBC bosses in cata solo).

    But how did this change also remove the level cap for raids? Surely a level 90 raid should only be accessable to level 90s.
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    Would his set up work for a 80 warrior? I got my warrior caped at 80 and have been thinking about trying this(not to this extent). More specifically using a intellect shield cloth gloves ect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cernunnos View Post
    I'm all for the removal of raid group to enter a raid instance (hated having to have someone log onto an alt soI could kill TBC bosses in cata solo).

    But how did this change also remove the level cap for raids? Surely a level 90 raid should only be accessable to level 90s.
    I hope they do that rather than nerfing veng and making it so you can carry a low lvl friend into a high lvl raid

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    Quote Originally Posted by teebo View Post
    Would his set up work for a 80 warrior? I got my warrior caped at 80 and have been thinking about trying this(not to this extent). More specifically using a intellect shield cloth gloves ect.
    prob tbh. scaling is kinda messed up atm

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    not hard to let the level 80 sit in the raid while the90s kill the boss, then after they die. everyone drops and he screens himself with the loot.


    Such an amazing tale, still fake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyLathusDisc View Post
    not hard to let the level 80 sit in the raid while the90s kill the boss, then after they die. everyone drops and he screens himself with the loot.


    Such an amazing tale, still fake.
    except that there have been videos floating around everywhere of similar type things.. lvl 80s soloing cata raids easily.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyLathusDisc View Post
    not hard to let the level 80 sit in the raid while the90s kill the boss, then after they die. everyone drops and he screens himself with the loot.


    Such an amazing tale, still fake.
    Look at the loot timer. there no real time for someone to drop group and for him to bealive that fast to loot+ 24g=one person in the raid

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    Quote Originally Posted by HolyLathusDisc View Post
    not hard to let the level 80 sit in the raid while the90s kill the boss, then after they die. everyone drops and he screens himself with the loot.


    Such an amazing tale, still fake.
    You look really dumb right now.

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    Its the vengeance bug sometimes gives you wrong amount of AP, because once you hit 70-80% mastery the game bugs and it does not include the damage on you, so basically you stack veng a bunch of times, go in and be unreal!

    This has been around since beginning of MoP and it only works on lvl 80's. 70% mastery is what you want but even around 60% is fine, im sure blizzard has already taken mastery off the lvl 80 blues from MoP, but its still possible to do it.
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    Blizzard fail.. Big fail. I wonder how he/she come up with this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malkazam View Post
    Blizzard fail.. Big fail. I wonder how he/she come up with this.
    was more or less said as a small joke on this forum
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    All the people calling this fake are hilarious when this has been known about for a long time now. This is just the first idiot to take screenshots of himself doing it.

    Quote Originally Posted by LuxyEU View Post
    was more or less said as a small joke on this forum
    http://www.twinkinfo.com/forums/f33/...0/index27.html
    It was posted on another forum 2 weeks ago (and known before that to a few underground groups).

  15. #55
    While the vengeance problem is there, and it is real, the loot box covering up the list of people is too suspicious.

    With the default blizzard raid frames, all you have to do to replicate what this poster has done is have the other people assign roles of DPS, and just uncheck the "Show DPS" button.

    Loot Box being where it is makes me call this complete bullshit.

    Release uncropped picture if you want any credibility.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaley View Post
    While the vengeance problem is there, and it is real, the loot box covering up the list of people is too suspicious.

    With the default blizzard raid frames, all you have to do to replicate what this poster has done is have the other people assign roles of DPS, and just uncheck the "Show DPS" button.

    Loot Box being where it is makes me call this complete bullshit.

    Release uncropped picture if you want any credibility.

    lol armory doesnt lie tho let alone the 26 gold loot box...

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Enhshamanlol View Post
    lol armory doesnt lie tho let alone the 26 gold loot box...
    Not disputing he has a kill under his belt, armory shows that. His armory has nothing to do with the other people in the group with him. Why put the loot box there? Too convenient, too suspicious. Put the loot box 5 inches to the right, and show "Group 1" along with the [Tank 1/2] [Healer 0/6] [DPS 0/3] information? Why is THAT information hidden? Looks, and smells, like bullshit.

    And the Gold has already been addressed as being individual. We 9 manned Vizier this week because we had a DPS running late and there was not an increase in gold obtained.

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    yeah vengeance isn't broken, hopefully 5.2 address's the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaley View Post
    Not disputing he has a kill under his belt, armory shows that. His armory has nothing to do with the other people in the group with him. Why put the loot box there? Too convenient, too suspicious. Put the loot box 5 inches to the right, and show "Group 1" along with the [Tank 1/2] [Healer 0/6] [DPS 0/3] information? Why is THAT information hidden? Looks, and smells, like bullshit.

    And the Gold has already been addressed as being individual. We 9 manned Vizier this week because we had a DPS running late and there was not an increase in gold obtained.
    The loot box is covering the raid options panel, not the raid frames. You can clearly see the raid frames in the picture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaley View Post
    Not disputing he has a kill under his belt, armory shows that. His armory has nothing to do with the other people in the group with him. Why put the loot box there? Too convenient, too suspicious. Put the loot box 5 inches to the right, and show "Group 1" along with the [Tank 1/2] [Healer 0/6] [DPS 0/3] information? Why is THAT information hidden? Looks, and smells, like bullshit.

    And the Gold has already been addressed as being individual. We 9 manned Vizier this week because we had a DPS running late and there was not an increase in gold obtained.
    They simply could have draggged it there so they could get a ss of their group/character/loot all at once without having all the other crap in the way. If they got the whole screen, would you honestly call it legit or still be calling bullshit for some other reason that you can find like you are with this one?
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