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    Is this build possible?

    So I'm making my first PC build as it was time for a full upgrade from old computer. Anyhow I've found a list of things, but I'm not sure if they are all compatible. Here's my list:

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-...sbs_02_01_t_lh
    http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita...MS/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology...3K/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD-RW...AQ/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Acer-V223W-EJB...EQ/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-550-Po...KI/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-...XI/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-3220-...XS/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-LGA11...9E/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Techn...RU/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-E...8I/ref=lh_ni_t

    I was also curious on how crucial an SSD was for WoW, I do 25m raids and I'd prefer to run with high graphics (view distance especially) really smoothly. I also run a lot of addons and intend to film my guilds raids.

    Thanks for all the help.

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    Get a big SSD (120GB or more) It's worth it.

    I only have WoW + a little other random stuff, + my Windows on mine (120gb) and its nearly full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by njorde View Post
    So I'm making my first PC build as it was time for a full upgrade from old computer. Anyhow I've found a list of things, but I'm not sure if they are all compatible. Here's my list:

    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-...sbs_02_01_t_lh
    http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digita...MS/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/OCZ-Technology...3K/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Asus-24xDVD-RW...AQ/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Acer-V223W-EJB...EQ/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/XFX-ATX-550-Po...KI/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-...XI/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i3-3220-...XS/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-LGA11...9E/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Techn...RU/ref=lh_ni_t
    http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-PCI-E...8I/ref=lh_ni_t

    I was also curious on how crucial an SSD was for WoW, I do 25m raids and I'd prefer to run with high graphics (view distance especially) really smoothly. I also run a lot of addons and intend to film my guilds raids.

    Thanks for all the help.
    get a 3570k instead of that locked cpu , oc'ing that would greatly increase your chance of succes with what you intend to do with the rig.
    rest seems fine.

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    Looks like a good build to me, everything is compatible, too bad you didn't buy it over the holidays with all the sales and stuff, may have been cheaper!
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    Well the products are all compatible.
    SSD doesn't effect game performance but I couldn't go back to a HDD after having a SSD load times are faster and say for some reason you get disconnected during a raid your going to be happy that you went with the SSD because the load times are so much better. Load times are almost not even there like 1-2 secs of load times on most things in wow.
    I like the SSD you picked I have it and its very nice and one of the fastest on the market today. If you just play wow and maybe another 2-3 games the 128 gigs is enough. Im running wow 2 other games D3 and Swtor, Norton,ccleaner,fraps,cpuz, Steam with 2 games and still have 35 gigs left. With that said I would probably just get a 250 gig SSD instead of buying a SSD and a HDD unless you just think you need that much data.

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    If you're planning on sticking with the i3220 for a while then swap out that Z77 motherboard for a H77 one, such as this Gigabyte board. That will save you $20.


    I'd also go for a smaller PSU, which will still be plenty of power for your system FSP Raider 80Plus Bronze 450W

    That should save you some monies, which could be used elsewhere, maybe even contribute to a more powerful CPU

    Newegg normally have great bundle deals and rebates. it might be worth checking their store as well, although I'm assuming your're only using those Amazon links as a reference? The cost of shipping those individual items could very well be used on components instead.

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    If you're going for performance it might be worth looking into an Core i5 processor over the i3. If you need to balance cost you could skip the SSD and just go with a single WD Caviar Black hard drive. The SSD will make your load times go faster, but won't help actual game performance at all. Conversely, a better processor would give you more bang for your dollar. That said, the Core i3 is a great budget processor, if that's really what you're going for. It's probably fine for WoW, but won't hold up as well for newer FPS games over the next few years.

    Only other area of possible concern I see might be the power supply. Not sure if that one is energy efficient (usually it would say if it is), meaning you're not getting the full capacity out of it (maybe 480W). In which case that might be a bit low if you're going to consider any future expansion. I'm also not that familiar with XFX, but maybe someone else has some experience with them. At least the reviews on Amazon are positive.

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    Given he's using both a Kepler GPU and an Ivy Bridge processor, both of which have reduced the power envelope for systems given their respective performance, downgrading to a 450W PSU is fine. Should save him so money atleast.

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-05 at 11:28 PM ----------

    I'd also drop the extra cpu cooler as well, the stock cooler/fan should be fine since your CPU can't be overclocked or even turbo boosted using Intel's turbo boost feature on its i5 processors.
    Last edited by Drudgery; 2013-01-05 at 11:29 PM.

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    Thanks for all the replies, I am looking for a more economic build too - don't really want to spend more than $1100 and under $1000 would be preferred.

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    Looking at those prices, excluding shipping, those 2 monitors and the SSD, you're spending nearly $750 on components, which although should fit together, isn't the best bang for your buck. You could certainly build something alot better for your money.


    I've may have made a simple error somewhere, but if you're set on an SSD and two monitors, even with a budget build it will most likely go over $1000.

    Would you be against shopping elsewhere other than Amazon, if you give your location someone might be able to head you into the correct direction in terms of bargains.

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    I was planning on Newegg, Amazon was just for reference. I was also only planning on 1 monitor as well. I'm looking for enough power to run WoW smoothly with plenty of add-ons and things like fraps.

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    Case: Antec One Gaming Case. A decent case if they're back in stock. Its a $50 case too, can't complain.

    CPU: i5 3570K with a $15 Promotional Gift Voucher

    HDD: Western Digial 2TB Drive for storage

    Motherboard: Asrock Pro4 Motherboard

    RAM: Samsung 8GB Ram

    GPU: EVGA Nvidia 660. Free Assassins Creed 3 game voucher

    SSD: Samsung 840 (One of the best performing cheap SSDs out there at the moment, hard to beat for the price)

    Monitor: AOC 23 inch eIPS monitor (its an IPS monitor for less than $200). Ergonomically, not great but price wise, hard to beat Ignore the 1 bad review, he/she was annoyed that the bezels were not thin.

    PSU: Enermax Bronze 650W. More power than what your system needs, but if you want a future upgrade for your system, this PSU should last you for a time.

    Total for this build comes to just under $1110 but with the $10 rebate and also the $15 voucher, you could potentially keep within your budget of $1100.

    You could make plenty of savings ofc if you get rid of your SSD and opt for a 1TB HDD. Ontop of this, if you have no wish to overclock, then investing in a non K i5 processor, like the i5 3470 and a H77 should net you a good $40+ in savings. You could also OPT for a cheaper monitor still. The HP 2311x is a nice LED monitor which will save you around $20. You could also downgrade your PSU to 450W and still be well within your power envelope of your system, that could save you another $35. Or you could opt for a weaker GPU, such as the AMD's 7850. All these changes will not noticeably impact on performance and in all honesty, I'd only stick with the choices above if you're planning on do some overclocking/tweaking your system. If you don't plan on doing any of this, then by all means downgrade as I have suggest and keep the savings, or maybe use those saving to beef up one of your components, say the GPU for example, or maybe buying a second monitor.
    Last edited by Drudgery; 2013-01-06 at 05:07 AM.

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    This is what I would build
    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811146075 nxt 210 45$
    Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130653 MSI G41 105$
    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116504 I5 3750k 220$
    CPU cooler:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103099 30$
    Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233186 Corsair LP 8 gigs 45$
    PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256061 Silverstone 500W 60$
    SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227715 Vertex 3 240G 200$
    Video card:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202004 XFX 7850 170$

    Price comes to around 850$ the only thing I left out was Windows and a CD drive. If you think you need more HDD space besides the one SSD make the SSD a 128 and get a HDD but I don't see the point unless you plan on doing a lot of fraps and Downloads.

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    Thanks again for all the help guys, I kind of pulled from everyone's posts and I'm really happy with the stuff I have:

    Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236079
    Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811129066
    Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130653
    CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116504
    CPU Cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835103099
    RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233186
    PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817256061
    SSD (Skipping HDD, I have 2TB of memory on a work computer not used for games): http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820227791
    Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814202004

    Since I'm still a little above the price I'm looking for, what would you recommend to downgrade (or maybe just general redundancy/unnecessary spending in this build). Once again I'm just looking for high performance and graphic settings for 25mans (shitstorm of AoE with add-ons running) and fraps running. Thanks again for all the help, I apologize for my computer illiteracy.

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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($204.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Xigmatek GAIA SD1283 56.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($20.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Crucial M4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.99 @ Newegg)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($179.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Power Supply: Antec Neo Eco 520W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
    Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg)
    Total: $924.91
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-06 03:45 EST-0500)

    I know the monitor and GPU cost a little extra but I think it's worth it and in the end it's less than the $1000 you mentioned. Front USB 3.0 support with the case. Don't forget an optical drive if you need it.
    CPU: Intel i5-3570k (4.5GHz) MB: ASUS Z77 Sabertooth (uefi 2003)
    GPU: Asus 280X TOP (1080MHz/1700MHz) RAM: Corsair LP/LV white 8GB 1600MHz
    SSD: Samsung 840Pro 256GB + Crucial m4 128GB (040H) PSU: Seasonic 620M CASE: Corsair 500R (White/Black) Monitor: LG 237L-BN IPS
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    Quote Originally Posted by njorde View Post
    Thanks again for all the help guys, I kind of pulled from everyone's posts and I'm really happy with the stuff I have:

    Since I'm still a little above the price I'm looking for, what would you recommend to downgrade (or maybe just general redundancy/unnecessary spending in this build). Once again I'm just looking for high performance and graphic settings for 25mans (shitstorm of AoE with add-ons running) and fraps running. Thanks again for all the help, I apologize for my computer illiteracy.
    This is difficult. Since Newegg have a promotional offer on the i5 3570K, then going for a non-K version seems a little pointless, even if you don't plan on overclocking. The price difference of $5 after applying the promotional code make any non-K i5 (like the i5 3470) worse value. Ofcourse going for a non-K version means investing in a cheaper H77/B75 motherboard. This could net you around $25-30 of savings.

    If you are trying to save $5 here and there, then the Samsung memory I've linked is a real gem for $40. Although people value them because they seem to be an overclockers dream. If thats not your thing, getting some value $35 8GB ram will save you $10. Crucial's Ballistix are on sale at the moment and have a good reputation.

    Also the Samsung 840 drives are $20 less, which means in terms of price/performance ratio, it makes it better value than the OCZ SSD.

    Then there is the PSU. Seasonic do have a great reputation, but Notarget's PSU recommendation should give you some decent savings or Enermax's 450W which costs $45 should save you a further $10 (this is taking Seasonic's rebate into account). All these PSUs should adequately power the system you've selected.

    You could also drop the CPU cooler for now, see if you're happy with your PC's current performance and invest in an after market cooler at a later date.
    Last edited by Drudgery; 2013-01-06 at 12:57 PM.

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