View Poll Results: Have you tried Shark Fin Soup before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puremallace View Post
    We can be totally against it, but 2 billion people are for it. Seriously just need to face reality here that sharks in this part of the world will shortly be exstinct right along with whales also. Smith in the Matrix was right we are like locust destroying everything we touch.
    I see this as the same kind of issue that whaling is in Japan and Norway, and the killing of seals in Iceland, and bullfighting in Mexico, Peru, and Spain. It's THEIR culture, who are we to outlaw things from the other side of the world that they have been doing for hundreds of generations just because we all of a sudden have some kind of self-righteous aversion to it?

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    Poor sharks .... *3days later* *play Farcry3* KILL ALL THE SHARKS!

    Now... really OT, is really cruel what they do to the animals

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    I see this as the same kind of issue that whaling is in Japan and Norway, and the killing of seals in Iceland. It's THEIR culture, who are we to outlaw things from the other side of the world that they have been doing for hundreds of generations just because we all of a sudden have some kind of self-righteous aversion to it?
    Because it seems thats what this generation is. Its the selfish, self righteous generation. These people who get involved feel they are alwaysright and dont care about anyone elses views but their own. They act like its the best but these people are extremely hypocritical. You.say leave people alone for their sexuality or the way they think, but then attack religion and other cultures. Tbh we really should take our own advice, ignore it. Take care of what happens in your country not the entire world. The chinese will run out of sharks and this will be over.

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    Is it really worth killing an endangered species for a 5 minute meal? No. Should we make exceptions because it's their "culture"? Fuck no. That's like saying we should continue to let middle-eastern men rape their women "because it's their culture".

    This isn't 6000BC. We don't need to be the hunter gatherer anymore. Animals can be farmed and killed humanely, even fish. If people want shark fun soup go ahead, make a farm and do it humanely, leave the wild the fuck alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    I see this as the same kind of issue that whaling is in Japan and Norway, and the killing of seals in Iceland, and bullfighting in Mexico, Peru, and Spain. It's THEIR culture, who are we to outlaw things from the other side of the world that they have been doing for hundreds of generations just because we all of a sudden have some kind of self-righteous aversion to it?
    Well since the Earth is one giant ecosystem, what happens in one part of the world can spread to others. I don't know where to even begin to explain to you, how stupid your statement is. Just because its a part of someone's culture doesn't mean its ok for them to do it. If people can't evolve past their primitive "cultures", then they need to be froced out of it.
    It's coming in 1.2!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trunksee View Post
    Because it seems thats what this generation is. Its the selfish, self righteous generation. These people who get involved feel they are alwaysright and dont care about anyone elses views but their own. They act like its the best but these people are extremely hypocritical. You.say leave people alone for their sexuality or the way they think, but then attack religion and other cultures. Tbh we really should take our own advice, ignore it. Take care of what happens in your country not the entire world. The chinese will run out of sharks and this will be over.
    It is right to attack religion and other cultures if they are doing something that abuses the rights of others, including animals.
    It is not right to attack someone based on their race or sexuality as that is who they are.

    There is a difference. I doubt you can see that though as judging by the last part of what you said you prefer to stay ignorant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mirodin View Post
    Well since the Earth is one giant ecosystem, what happens in one part of the world can spread to others. I don't know where to even begin to explain to you, how stupid your statement is. Just because its a part of someone's culture doesn't mean its ok for them to do it. If people can't evolve past their primitive "cultures", then they need to be froced out of it.
    So then what if somebody thinks your culture is primitive. Do they have the right to force you out of it?

  8. #128
    I don't care if people eat shark fin soup, as long as the sharks they're hunting aren't endangered. Wouldn't touch it myself though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    So then what if somebody thinks your culture is primitive. Do they have the right to force you out of it?
    Someone where? This person doesn't exist lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    So then what if somebody thinks your culture is primitive. Do they have the right to force you out of it?
    If it infringes on certain rights then of course. Nobody is saying they can't make shark fin soup anymore, it's the way they hunt the sharks that is the problem.

    China should of grown up a long time ago, considering how advanced they are with technology it's a shame stuff like this lets them down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    If it infringes on certain rights then of course. Nobody is saying they can't make shark fin soup anymore, it's the way they hunt the sharks that is the problem.

    China should of grown up a long time ago, considering how advanced they are with technology it's a shame stuff like this lets them down.
    Oh I agree, the way they hunt the sharks is deplorable. But actually, yea, people are saying they shouldn't be able to make the soup anymore. People who are not from China. People who have probably never been to China.

    It just doesn't sit well with me. I'd be more inclined to listen to a group of people in China or Hong Kong or Taiwan or whatever who are against it. I'd take them more seriously than a group of self-appointed cultural crusaders from 'Murica or Europe.

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    Tasted, was good. This video where Ramsey tastes it seems very biased, of course he can only tell this isn't good, he's the good guy, saying anything good about this would make his popularity drop a huge time (maybe even end his "public" career)

    But yeah, terrible fishing / hunting practices there, even for something good this should be changed, at least use the whole fish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ysilla View Post
    This video where Ramsey tastes it seems very biased, of course he can only tell this isn't good, he's the good guy
    lolwut? Since when is Ramsay the "good guy"?

    Could be like Bobby Flay, who during a show on the Food Network couldn't get a fish to stop wiggling so he whacked it against the end of the table and began to cut it up. I'm shocked he didn't get taken off the air for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    Could be like Bobby Flay, who during a show on the Food Network couldn't get a fish to stop wiggling so he whacked it against the end of the table and began to cut it up. I'm shocked he didn't get taken off the air for that.
    For being cruel to a fish while preparing food? Are you serious? And it sounds like he did it out of practicality not malice. Also, it's a fucking fish. A fish!

    They have whole programs dedicated to sports fishing, which isn't really anything more than meaningless fish torture for fun. Can't see why mistreating a fish before you cook it is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    lolwut? Since when is Ramsay the "good guy"?
    Since all he does is helping people and trying to prevent waste of anything in all his shows ? He may act like a "bad guy" on the show, since this is what people need to act, and even more because this is what viewers want to see, but all he does in the end is being good/helping everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ysilla View Post
    Since all he does is helping people and trying to prevent waste of anything in all his shows ? He may act like a "bad guy" on the show, since this is what people need to act, and even more because this is what viewers want to see, but all he does in the end is being good/helping everyone.
    Oh, well I've certainly never seen or heard of him acting like that. The only Gordon Ramsay I've ever seen is the guy who screams at people, bullies them, and calls them obscene names while threatening to kick them out of the restaurant business forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    Oh, well I've certainly never seen or heard of him acting like that. The only Gordon Ramsay I've ever seen is the guy who screams at people, bullies them, and calls them obscene names while threatening to kick them out of the restaurant business forever.
    Try looking until the end then, when people are always happy about what he did for them.

  18. #138
    Such a giant waste, especially when famine is a problem in some countries. Also, if eating the shark is about prestige, why not eat the whole thing? What makes jellied fins so special?

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by Trafalgarlaw View Post
    i see no problem with this. You have no qualms about breeding and mass slaughtering cows and pigs. But you take issue with these sharkers merely because attention is brought upon it?

    This place REEKS of hypocricy.
    The stupidity inn this one common can't be measured. Thanks sir, you made my day.


    On topic; Old news are old, saw this quit a long time ago. Its not so much about taste, its a delicasy. Makes no sence if you ask me, but one can't understand the world always. I surely hope that the local police enforces rules about fishermens, that are known to hunt sharks just for some stupid flappy fin.

    Edit: PS best soup Goullash ftw! Now thats a delicasy
    One reason for WoW decline I often hear is that its an old game and naturally people get bored with it. But TV is much older and people still watch that. Surely if a thing you once enjoyed keept staying fun, you would still use it?

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    Waste? Plenty of wasteful practices in the world, including my country.

    Cruel? You do realize that we cook shell fish while they are alive???
    Last edited by Purlina; 2013-01-08 at 04:24 PM.

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