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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    Really? Interesting. I thought they always saw them. I know I had to lantern some souls from the bushes because my enemies sat around them to zone me, but maybe they just had good warding.
    Mind you, I'm just quoting someone else here, no experience on Thresh personally yet. Might have changed since PBE and the person I am quoting might have been wrong themselves - however, the version I described seems logical enough and a better solution than the souls always being visible, so I am going to believe it until proven otherwise.
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    Just watched two featured streams in client with gold and platinum players - first game, thresh was mid and got absolutely butchered, second game, he was jungling and he had very slow clears and fell way behind. Hoping to see some streams of him actually supporting.
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    It seems Thresh has been viable as a top and a support. He seems pretty effective wherever in Ranked, I think this guy will be the next insta-ban champ.
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    I would still rather ban Blitz than him. At least Thresh can't pull your AD carry over a wall for a surprise party in late game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Caine View Post
    I would still rather ban Blitz than him. At least Thresh can't pull your AD carry over a wall for a surprise party in late game.
    He can pull himself and a teammate over though for a fun jungle box. I think that is just as scary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    He can pull himself and a teammate over though for a fun jungle box. I think that is just as scary.
    Yeah, it is scary - but nowhere near as game-changing as hitting a fist on the AD carry 40 minutes into the game. ^.^
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    I dunno, I found his lantern plays very obvious and telegraphed so far. Might've only encountered Thresh...es? that haven't gotten much experience so far, though. He doesn't seem to be capable of accomplishing much if he can't get Death Sentence to latch during the laning phase, but it made my heart stop every time I ate one. x.x

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    All I'll say is don't let first impressions get you underestimating people.

    So many times, I see people getting owned by Syndra because "she suks lol", or underestimating a Blitzcrank support just because he missed a few hooks. Thresh has got the tools to f--- you up, so don't let down your guard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raminax View Post
    I dunno, I found his lantern plays very obvious and telegraphed so far. Might've only encountered Thresh...es? that haven't gotten much experience so far, though. He doesn't seem to be capable of accomplishing much if he can't get Death Sentence to latch during the laning phase, but it made my heart stop every time I ate one. x.x
    Thresh has the tools to screw you over just by getting in AA range. You have to either stay away from him or catch him out. Multiple times I would just get into flay range to initiate, then use his pull to bring them back in. He not only has the tools to make you die, but he also has the damage to secure it.

    Honestly, I'm glad I haven't seen and enemy Thresh yet. I'm not scared of many supports because they have low damage, but Thresh has the CC to make that lower damage hurt.

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    Well, I've been playing it safe until I get some more experience fighting the guy. Guess it was the right thing to do! But then again, guess that's what you always do against something as offensive as Thresh, unless you prefer going 0/7/1 in your lane.

    Do want him myself, but I've been lazy with playing games lately so there's a bunch of IP grinding to go. x.x
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    I haven't tried him yet myself, at least not on Live. I want to try to run him with a friend playing ADC before I play with randoms.

    By the way, what runes are you guys running on him? I imagine AD marks as support would compliment his Q a bit, though you don't max it first. Right now, I'm planning on going with the suggested Armor/Armor/MR/GP5.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    I haven't tried him yet myself, at least not on Live. I want to try to run him with a friend playing ADC before I play with randoms.

    By the way, what runes are you guys running on him? I imagine AD marks as support would compliment his Q a bit, though you don't max it first. Right now, I'm planning on going with the suggested Armor/Armor/MR/GP5.
    My build so far: Standard support runes: Armor/Armor/MR/GP5. My personal support tree of 1/2/27. I've actually been going R > Q > W > E. W has been mostly used as an "Oh shit" button and since no one knows to click it yet it's a waste of the lowered CD. Maxing Q first lets your harass hit harder as well.

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    Huh, usually I run a bit more defense when it comes to supports, but that's probably a personal preference-thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    Huh, usually I run a bit more defense when it comes to supports, but that's probably a personal preference-thing.
    I used to have a tree that ran that, but I didn't like it as much. Link to my masteries. It's page 4.

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    Not played ingame yet, but they failed to change this crap, and he'll be permaban material.

    Here is a baby-simple deal-throw lantern to jungle, have jungler gank from it. And here you come with ghetto Shen ult, which is one of the things making Shen permaban.

    This will require insane amount of warding to counter, so it's not even nice. And even those wards will not eliminate some mistakes that will get people killed...
    Like when Lee teleports on thrash, then jumps over Ezreal (or ward) who shifts behind enemy and just ultimate people back. Lee was never balanced around being able to teleport instantly into gank.
    Or just some other kind of wild CC appears..

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    I've also noticed no one does research on this shit... Ahri getting be man ganked over the jungle wall.... I throw lantern, 5 secs later she dies...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SargorVirm View Post
    I've also noticed no one does research on this shit... Ahri getting be man ganked over the jungle wall.... I throw lantern, 5 secs later she dies...
    "you know if you click the lantern it brings u to me right?"
    "I just thought it was a shield -__-"
    Stop the presses

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFK-Champion View Post
    Not played ingame yet, but they failed to change this crap, and he'll be permaban material.

    Here is a baby-simple deal-throw lantern to jungle, have jungler gank from it. And here you come with ghetto Shen ult, which is one of the things making Shen permaban.

    This will require insane amount of warding to counter, so it's not even nice. And even those wards will not eliminate some mistakes that will get people killed...
    Like when Lee teleports on thrash, then jumps over Ezreal (or ward) who shifts behind enemy and just ultimate people back. Lee was never balanced around being able to teleport instantly into gank.
    Or just some other kind of wild CC appears..
    Thresh is one big mind game. In my last game I didn't get to play him but one was on my team. I was jungling Fiora. I sat in tri-bush for a gank. He ran up like he was pretending to ward, dropped his lantern, than ran into the lane. As soon as he was near the enemy I clicked the Lantern and was in perfect range for a Q jump. Easy gank and kill. I was 11/0/x before suiciding right as we won because bottom lane was just a murder fest.

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    Wonder how he would do with a non ranged AD. Not thinking about the meta for the sake of it. Bruiser guy jumps in, does tons of damage, can jump back to you.

    Things like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    Thresh is one big mind game.
    More like complete paranoia. The question is more like who will enjoy the free spot after thrash will be permabanned?

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