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    Quote Originally Posted by Ispamx View Post
    I'm scared, I wouldn't mind if he just had to chose between Leona or Nautlius gap closers, but having a Blitzcrank grab, as well as a minor knockback, slow, occasional burst damage, the frustrating-ness akin to a farmed Nasus and the ability to save peoples lives right before death just sounds like a horrible mix of Blitzcrank/Soraka (Last second life saves)/Gangplank support + a Nasus/Veigar/Sion ability that doesn't require last hits to farm up (Not sure on that, correct me if I'm wrong).

    Sounds like a real terror to play against.
    His grab is nowhere near as scary as Blitz's - hit from max range it's not going to get the enemy even halfway towards you and it can't pull through the walls. It's also a slow projectile with a long windup and even slower drag speed. No mistake, it's still very useful, but not even close to the dangerousness of Blitz and much harder to hit.

    As for souls, on one hand anything that dies nearby can leave one, no matter who killed the unit. On the other, getting the souls during laning can be dangerous/very mana draining, as you either need to spam your W(?) or go into melee range as a ranged champion. It also is not as strong as Nasus/Veigar Q farm - ratios on skills are atrocious, so this free AP is not as cool as it might sound and the MR part is removed.
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    I think he might be a pretty good counter to Blitzcrank though. Every time someone gets grabbed, you just throw the lantern in there and save them.

    On the other hand, he doesn't seem to have anything to "keep people away".

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    Except for his mass pull that can be used as mass push, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    I think he might be a pretty good counter to Blitzcrank though. Every time someone gets grabbed, you just throw the lantern in there and save them.

    On the other hand, he doesn't seem to have anything to "keep people away".
    He can keep away with his E(?), since it can knockback both towards and away from him. His Q is also reminiscent of a snare in a way, kinda like Ahri's Charm - the drag seems a bit slower than normal movement speed and you can move while the target is dragged towards you.

    That lantern teleport is also awesome for diving and stealing buffs. Jump in, do your deed and disappear like smoke before anyone reacts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grading View Post
    I think he might be a pretty good counter to Blitzcrank though. Every time someone gets grabbed, you just throw the lantern in there and save them.

    On the other hand, he doesn't seem to have anything to "keep people away".
    I think his knockback pushes people farther away than it pulls then. Little weird, but it makes sense considering he already has a pull and it's just good enough at max range to stick them in your ult.

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    Yeah, I thought of it, but when I was using it, I just found it meh.

    Though I don't get to test things properly on the PBE since anyone not in the US have a hefty amount of ping while playing there.

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    I think Thresh will become the "Lee Sin" of supports. Where being creative and skilled with the champion will have you doing crazy plays that not many other champions could do.

    Or trying to do crazy plays and failing.

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    Im going to say ap mid on this one, their are alot of supports that take the mid position, such as Lux, Morgana, Karma, etc...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seani View Post
    Im going to say ap mid on this one, their are alot of supports that take the mid position, such as Lux, Morgana, Karma, etc...
    I wish you luck building AP on a champion with 0.4 ratios.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seani View Post
    Im going to say ap mid on this one, their are alot of supports that take the mid position, such as Lux, Morgana, Karma, etc...
    Lux and Morg are primarily AP mids though, they just have enough utility to fit into the support role. Karma is just weird and needs a rework.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Axethor View Post
    Lux and Morg are primarily AP mids though, they just have enough utility to fit into the support role. Karma is just weird and needs a rework.
    What I mean by support mid is when you have a tanky support bot, then build a support in the mid like Karma. Lux, Morgana etc... Thats when I think he would shine. .4 ap ratios are a little low though, but he does have a good aoe ability (sweep), and lots of control abilities. As a pure support I dont see it, because he would loose the bennifet of being 'fed' which seems to play a large part in a successful Thresh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seani View Post
    What I mean by support mid is when you have a tanky support bot, then build a support in the mid like Karma. Lux, Morgana etc... Thats when I think he would shine.
    I have no idea what are you talking about here. Building support items on an AP carry in the mid? Building AP carry items on an AP carry that could also support due to utility inherent in their abilities?


    Quote Originally Posted by Seani View Post
    As a pure support I dont see it, because he would loose the bennifet of being 'fed' which seems to play a large part in a successful Thresh.
    Why would snowballing affect Thresh's strength at all? He can have 0 cs, go 0/0/0 and still be very tanky from the souls. His abilities also are designed with nothing but support in mind - low ratios, insane utility unaffected by any stats other than CDR.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seani View Post
    What I mean by support mid is when you have a tanky support bot, then build a support in the mid like Karma. Lux, Morgana etc... Thats when I think he would shine. .4 ap ratios are a little low though, but he does have a good aoe ability (sweep), and lots of control abilities. As a pure support I dont see it, because he would loose the bennifet of being 'fed' which seems to play a large part in a successful Thresh.
    Thresh shines through his insane control. You don't need damage when you can keep a person locked up for the ADC to kill. He really gets all the extra AP he needs through his soul mechanic. Also, many new support items have AP on them, so he doesn't have to go out of his way to buy damage.

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  14. #134
    It's a better, tankier Blitz with more CC. exactly what this game needed....

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    Quote Originally Posted by madwabbit View Post
    It's a better, tankier Blitz with more CC. exactly what this game needed....
    Do research before posting misinformed, hasty and stupid opinions. His grab is barely similar to Blitz's at all, the reasons for that I already have explained earlier.
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  16. #136

    The skin that will be release with him, Deep Terror Thresh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ichifails View Post

    The skin that will be release with him, Deep Terror Thresh.
    Not half bad, especially the recall. Too bad I dislike nautical themes, so ain't gonna buy it for sure.
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    Can you imagine a full Deep Sea team?

    Cho'gath top, Nautilus jungle, Kog'maw ADC, Fizz* mid, Thresh bot? That'd be fun.


    *Or Kassadin or Gragas

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    Weird I was just searching for gauss canon in bottom right corner to shoot it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackroo View Post
    WHAT. The amount of CC this guy posseses is beyond stupid, what the living fuck.

    I can just imagine it...

    "OH FUCK YEAH IM HAMMERING THAT KOG'MAW U GUYS" -> Irelia
    *Thresh pulls Irelia to himself*
    "Oh dang it! Okay, fine, I'll Q back to Kog, I got him now!" -> Irelia
    *Thresh Sweeps Irelia away from Kog*
    "Fucksake!11!!1 Okay, cool, Imma Flash for this guy!" -> Irelia
    *Thresh places Lantern, Kog clicks and get's dashed to Tresh*
    "ARGFGGFFGFGHGGHGHGHGHGHGHGgfdsgsgsds /slashwrists"

    He does look pretty cool though. I'll have to see the ranges on his pulls/sweeps/dashes (rofl) before I judge anything though.
    I think its gonna be awesome if you just build him a little tanky... most of the baddies are going to go straight ap... and hes gonna get destroyed.

    Like a blitz but better (except his missile is slower) so it may be more difficult than yall are thinking.

    Pull in with [Q]. Run like a lil bitch. Pull in again with [E] drop [W] and let your adc port back to you if necessary.

    Did I forget something? Oh! [R] I actually think his first 3 abilities are going to be enough to secure a kill under most circumstances.

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