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  1. #121
    Quote Originally Posted by mercutiouk View Post
    Correct on most. The class is MUCH more likely to be the warden though as we have Maiev still "at large". Demon hunter would be a non caster cloth/leather wearing class of which in the case of the former there are none (so would need a conversion talent baked in which would be a bit... cheesy) or in the case of leather a 4th agi leather wearer right on the back of the last one.
    For some reason there's a lot of the player base seem to expect demon hunter to mean a more badass ranged hunter class or something when it clearly wouldn't.
    warden would make for an awful class its pretty much a rogue that wears plate for some weird reason. plus its virtually unknown and never asked for blizzard has always added in something that ALOT of people have asked for.

    blood elves, goblins, death knights, brewmasters, pandaren. all some of the most asked for things to be added to wow since vanilla in fact pandaren and demon hunter have been THE MOST asked for things which means demon hunter is the most likely class out of all of the possible classes.

    the 2nd moast asked for class is probably something like a dragonsworn or maybe a battle mage.

    plus demon hunters have tons of lore to be worked around and theyve been hinted at in multiple quests and by multiple npcs in both cata and mists. for example theres a pandaren in the monk zone that says "i wanted to be a demon hunter"
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  2. #122
    Quote Originally Posted by mercutiouk View Post
    Correct on most. The class is MUCH more likely to be the warden though as we have Maiev still "at large". Demon hunter would be a non caster cloth/leather wearing class of which in the case of the former there are none (so would need a conversion talent baked in which would be a bit... cheesy) or in the case of leather a 4th agi leather wearer right on the back of the last one.
    For some reason there's a lot of the player base seem to expect demon hunter to mean a more badass ranged hunter class or something when it clearly wouldn't.
    Leather? Doubt it.

    Amount of cloth users: 3 (mage, lock, priest)
    Amount of leather users: 3 (monk, druid, rogue)
    Amount of mail users: 2 (hunter, shaman)
    Amount of plate users: 3 (dk, pala, warrior)

    They won't fix pala healing gear problem (it isn't a problem for the hpala themselves ironically). It would surprise me if Blizz would make this mistake in their next game. They'll keep it as "minor nuisance" but meanwhile you got one armor type only used by 2 classes instead of 3. My take: the 12th class will be Mail armor type.

    A demon hunter wouldn't necessarily have to be a ranged-only class.
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  3. #123
    Quote Originally Posted by Sky High Shark View Post
    Aszhara may be the harbinger of the burning legion but with events in Vashjir it seems she is working more for the old gods, and demon hunters are already in the game.....they are called warlocks.
    I'm fairly certain that after she was transformed she lost any connection with the Burning Legion. Plus, the Old Gods wouldn't deal with the Legion either. They want their world, they don't want it destroyed, which is what the Legion ultimately wants. There's the possibility of them tricking them, but I doubt that an Old God servant would be their harbinger. The Old Gods work in much less direct ways than that. They prefer manipulation.

    Quote Originally Posted by superstarz View Post
    if you havent noticed..
    mist of pandaria is about pandas..
    Should probably get those glasses checked mate... the only zone that actually focused on pandaren would be Valley of the Four Winds. Every other zone's about the sha, the Alliance / Horde, the yaungol, the mogu, or the mantid. Doesn't seem much like it's about the pandaren :P

    Yeah pandaren are in all these zones, but they aren't the focus (IE those zones aren't about pandaren). You can replace the pandaren with any other race that's allied with the players and the plot wouldn't change aside from replacing the pandaren with these guys. The plot's made revolving around the conflict (as most plots are), and the pandaren are not such.

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    I still say mope is about pandas.
    You also need your glasses checked, sir!

    Quote Originally Posted by lolalola View Post
    Leather? Doubt it.

    Amount of cloth users: 3 (mage, lock, priest)
    Amount of leather users: 3 (monk, druid, rogue)
    Amount of mail users: 2 (hunter, shaman)
    Amount of plate users: 3 (dk, pala, warrior)

    They won't fix pala healing gear problem (it isn't a problem for the hpala themselves ironically). It would surprise me if Blizz would make this mistake in their next game. They'll keep it as "minor nuisance" but meanwhile you got one armor type only used by 2 classes instead of 3. My take: the 12th class will be Mail armor type.

    A demon hunter wouldn't necessarily have to be a ranged-only class.
    Demon hunters in warcraft wouldn't be ranged... they carry around giant warglaives, it's hard for them to do stuff at ranged

    Plus that's how they were portrayed in the RPG and in encounters during TBC... It'd be a pretty weird curveball for them to suddenly have the capability to be ranged fighters.

    And I always felt like they dropped the ball on mail. Only the wealthiest or highest ranked soldiers wore plate. I always felt like mail on a non-tank warrior or paladin (since tanks always seemed like they'd fit that "CO" position, to me) would be appropriate.
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  4. #124
    Quote Originally Posted by The Madgod View Post
    I'm fairly certain that after she was transformed she lost any connection with the Burning Legion. Plus, the Old Gods wouldn't deal with the Legion either. They want their world, they don't want it destroyed, which is what the Legion ultimately wants. There's the possibility of them tricking them, but I doubt that an Old God servant would be their harbinger. The Old Gods work in much less direct ways than that. They prefer manipulation.



    Should probably get those glasses checked mate... the only zone that actually focused on pandaren would be Valley of the Four Winds. Every other zone's about the sha, the Alliance / Horde, the yaungol, the mogu, or the mantid. Doesn't seem much like it's about the pandaren :P

    Yeah pandaren are in all these zones, but they aren't the focus (IE those zones aren't about pandaren). You can replace the pandaren with any other race that's allied with the players and the plot wouldn't change aside from replacing the pandaren with these guys. The plot's made revolving around the conflict (as most plots are), and the pandaren are not such.



    You also need your glasses checked, sir!



    Demon hunters in warcraft wouldn't be ranged... they carry around giant warglaives, it's hard for them to do stuff at ranged

    Plus that's how they were portrayed in the RPG and in encounters during TBC... It'd be a pretty weird curveball for them to suddenly have the capability to be ranged fighters.

    And I always felt like they dropped the ball on mail. Only the wealthiest or highest ranked soldiers wore plate. I always felt like mail on a non-tank warrior or paladin (since tanks always seemed like they'd fit that "CO" position, to me) would be appropriate.
    it be very easy to make demon hunters wear mail it even says in the rpg books that some of them wore mail
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  5. #125
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    I think Naga were established as an expansion theme a long time ago. Will it be this next expansion? Perhaps.

  6. #126
    Quote Originally Posted by Immitis View Post
    it be very easy to make demon hunters wear mail it even says in the rpg books that some of them wore mail
    Not even talking about that mate! I remember reading something like that... I'm mainly just on a rant about how there's no strength mail and that somehow all of the foot soldiers of the alliance and horde have (what basically have to be fairly) custom-made suits of plate armor. Military-contracted blacksmiths must make a fucking fortune!

  7. #127
    Quote Originally Posted by lolalola View Post
    Leather? Doubt it.

    Amount of cloth users: 3 (mage, lock, priest)
    Amount of leather users: 3 (monk, druid, rogue)
    Amount of mail users: 2 (hunter, shaman)
    Amount of plate users: 3 (dk, pala, warrior)

    They won't fix pala healing gear problem (it isn't a problem for the hpala themselves ironically). It would surprise me if Blizz would make this mistake in their next game. They'll keep it as "minor nuisance" but meanwhile you got one armor type only used by 2 classes instead of 3. My take: the 12th class will be Mail armor type.

    A demon hunter wouldn't necessarily have to be a ranged-only class.
    My point was that it would likely be another mail wearing class. Probably ranged. Neither of those even remotely sound like a demon hunter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Madgod View Post
    I'm fairly certain that after she was transformed she lost any connection with the Burning Legion. Plus, the Old Gods wouldn't deal with the Legion either. They want their world, they don't want it destroyed, which is what the Legion ultimately wants. There's the possibility of them tricking them, but I doubt that an Old God servant would be their harbinger. The Old Gods work in much less direct ways than that. They prefer manipulation.
    The whole reason the old gods were all for the legion coming to azeroth was so that they could use the magic/energy from the well/portal opening to break the magic the titans were holding them with.

  9. #129
    Quote Originally Posted by Immitis View Post
    it be very easy to make demon hunters wear mail it even says in the rpg books that some of them wore mail
    Which books? (Not saying your wrong but I could say "well, look at all the demon hunters in game, none of them wear mail"). It's hardly completely cannon and un-bendable but: http://www.wowwiki.com/Demon_hunter

    Read sections on equipment and weaponary.
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  10. #130
    Quote Originally Posted by mercutiouk View Post
    My point was that it would likely be another mail wearing class. Probably ranged. Neither of those even remotely sound like a demon hunter.
    no it will likely be something alot of people want and been asking for.

    now ask yourself everytime someone asks "whats the next class gonna be" and go back and check how almost eveytime demon hunter is at the top of that list.

    blizzard is in this business to make money and if there is one thing that will bring in money its demon hunters. their old school so they bring in the old warcraft crowd, their related to illidan so all the "bc was teh bestest" crowd are guaranteed to buy it just to check it out, there badass samurai warriors with demonic powers and some of the coolest weapons in the game so that brings in the ninja turtle crowd.

    demon hunters ooze money and blizzard likes money
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  11. #131
    Quote Originally Posted by Splatter View Post
    The whole reason the old gods were all for the legion coming to azeroth was so that they could use the magic/energy from the well/portal opening to break the magic the titans were holding them with.
    Mmmyep. That also failed miserably. The Old Gods would probably be wary of attempting to use them a second time, ESPECIALLY after the Legion returned, and failed again!

    Quote Originally Posted by Immitis View Post
    no it will likely be something alot of people want and been asking for.

    now ask yourself everytime someone asks "whats the next class gonna be" and go back and check how almost eveytime demon hunter is at the top of that list.

    blizzard is in this business to make money and if there is one thing that will bring in money its demon hunters. their old school so they bring in the old warcraft crowd, their related to illidan so all the "bc was teh bestest" crowd are guaranteed to buy it just to check it out, there badass samurai warriors with demonic powers and some of the coolest weapons in the game so that brings in the ninja turtle crowd.

    demon hunters ooze money and blizzard likes money
    The biggest issue with demon hunters though would be that they are social pariahs. It'd take a good bit of convincing of the leaders of the Alliance and Horde for them to be "accepted" into the fold. If they can find a way to do that, then Blizzard's golden. But I'd say that's a relatively big "if."

  12. #132
    Quote Originally Posted by -Apathy- View Post
    I'm going to disagree and give you some evidence; Wrathion made a globe of the planet, The planet then was pelted with a bunch of meteors which resembles obviously infernals aka Burning legion.

    Oh and the new warlock quest could have links to it as well
    Well its not like the naga - albeit when they were less scaly and more elfy- didn't call the burning legion down once before in a bid for power. We've had druid, pally, priest, shaman, dk, monk and rogue factions dealing with major threats in past expansions, maybe the council of the six daggers would much rather rule over demons than vice versa and lead the fight against the legion?

    I mean the Klaxxi's shown the factions we can work for dont have to exactly be more than an alliance of convenience for the time y'know?

  13. #133
    Quote Originally Posted by The Madgod View Post
    Mmmyep. That also failed miserably. The Old Gods would probably be wary of attempting to use them a second time, ESPECIALLY after the Legion returned, and failed again!
    Depends. What with time travel and all, that might have been the Old Gods from the present trying it out for the first time in the past. Mayhap a trial run, as it were, for a future invasion.

    Or if they go for the full on Lovecraftian 'beyond comprehension' stuff, past present and future might be all the same to them.

  14. #134
    Quote Originally Posted by mercutiouk View Post
    Which books? (Not saying your wrong but I could say "well, look at all the demon hunters in game, none of them wear mail"). It's hardly completely cannon and un-bendable but: http://www.wowwiki.com/Demon_hunter

    Read sections on equipment and weaponary.
    on the wowpedia article it says they rarely wear mail and almost never wear plate.

    still lore wise all hunters wear leather. the only thing demon hunters really need is attitude, blindfolds, glaives, and tattoos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superstarz View Post
    its about pandas.. of course it has storylines of orcs and humans too but this expansion is about pandas..

    saying this expansion is about orcs and humans is just like saying every expansions are about PvP because every patch people play PvP
    No. You're missing the point entirely. This expansion is not *about* the Pandaren. The Pandaren race is not the center of the story. The center of the story is the alliance/horde war, and is an allegorical commentary about real-world societies. The expansion is about what happens when people are too hasty to judge others, too quick to cling to biases and prejudices, and the consequences of those choices.

    The expansion is a commentary about the very thing happening in this thread: divisive, bitter people coming to a neutral place and completely fucking it up for everyone.

  16. #136
    Quote Originally Posted by The Madgod View Post
    Mmmyep. That also failed miserably. The Old Gods would probably be wary of attempting to use them a second time, ESPECIALLY after the Legion returned, and failed again!



    The biggest issue with demon hunters though would be that they are social pariahs. It'd take a good bit of convincing of the leaders of the Alliance and Horde for them to be "accepted" into the fold. If they can find a way to do that, then Blizzard's golden. But I'd say that's a relatively big "if."
    well a demon invasion is probably the easiest way demon killers can be accepted if only partially by society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Madgod View Post
    Mmmyep. That also failed miserably. The Old Gods would probably be wary of attempting to use them a second time, ESPECIALLY after the Legion returned, and failed again!



    The biggest issue with demon hunters though would be that they are social pariahs. It'd take a good bit of convincing of the leaders of the Alliance and Horde for them to be "accepted" into the fold. If they can find a way to do that, then Blizzard's golden. But I'd say that's a relatively big "if."
    Well, despite my objections with type and armour etc the points about "what's wanted" is one fairly well made. In answer to your objection here Death Knights were hardly "A" list celebrities and known merrymakers before wrath.
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  18. #138
    Quote Originally Posted by mercutiouk View Post
    Well, despite my objections with type and armour etc the points about "what's wanted" is one fairly well made. In answer to your objection here Death Knights were hardly "A" list celebrities and known merrymakers before wrath.
    tbh im very biased when it comes to demon hunters. demon hunters and pandaren have been my most wanted things since wow came out
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slummish View Post
    If you follow the ol' leaked Blizzard timeline, the next xpac is due to launch in the same quarter as the mysterious Titan. I don't see how Blizzard would want to launch both titles simultaneously unless the next WoW installment is strong enough to keep the playerbase interested in both games.
    Mike Morhaime (sp?) and others at Blizzard have already stated that Titan will be a new intellectual property, and that what they are aiming for is something that will easily co-exist with WoW for quite a while. They are not making something that all the WoW players will want to drop everything and flock to. If we consider the current IP's that are under Blizz's roof (WC, SC, Diablo) while there is a significant group that play and enjoy all three, there are some that only like one, plus the untapped market of those who don't like either, or who will be new to gaming around Titan's launch.

    TLDR: They don't need to keep people interested in both. They will be apples/oranges and will co-exist mutually exclusive of each other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McTurbo View Post
    due to lack of villian for MOP.. i think blizzard needs a recoup for thier story line back to something people are interested in.. outside of arthas.. and the lich king.. i think the legion would be a huge draw
    You mean the lack of a tangible figurehead of "evil". There is a villain. There are many villains. Some are physical, some are intangible. Meditate on this.

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    you guys O-O just imagine it... chen stormstout... as a demon hunter.. AWESOMENESS OVER 9000!!!! @_@
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