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  1. #181
    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    Pretty much sums up all the pro-gun campaigners, a bunch of morons that have no idea what they are talking about
    No. No it doesn't. Not even close. Get educated please.
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    If I was in his boots (and forced to join the SS in 1939 or whenever he joined), I would have tried to liberate the camp myself or die trying. He did not. He traded his life for the life of thousands of people, thus he should face the consequences
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    Oh would you now? It truly is amazing how many heroic people we have wasting their time on internet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    so what you're trying to say is.. the difference is one key part. just as i said.
    That's the entire point
    then why did you say "america isnt a tiny homogenous island country and thats why gun laws wont work"?
    they work in plenty of other countries as well. that are all special in their own ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    Pretty much sums up all the pro-gun campaigners, a bunch of morons that have no idea what they are talking about
    <Pro-gun (essentially,) still think people like Alex Jones are fucking insane. Please don't paint people with broad brushes, it makes you look bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    I agree with all of that. Im just adamantly against further heavy handed bans
    See, that's what I meant.... Most responsible gun owners support regulation...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    What has Penn to do with anything now?
    He's a stand up comedian, and that's a snippet from the Penn and Teller Show. It's a sarcastic, comedian way to showcase gun obsession.
    Some lessons are best taught through comedy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    What has Penn to do with anything now?
    He's a stand up comedian, and that's a snippet from the Penn and Teller Show. It's a sarcastic, comedian way to showcase gun obsession.
    He's a fellow libertarian. He may say things that you find humorous, but the point is serious.

    Hypothetical scenario: Your daughter stands accross the street from a rapist. Which makes her safest: A condom, a cop 5 minutes away or a concealed handgun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    He's a fellow libertarian. He may say things that you find humorous, but the point is serious.

    Hypothetical scenario: Your daughter stands accross the street from a rapist. Which makes her safest: A condom, a cop 5 minutes away or a concealed handgun?
    Fellow libertarian? Fellow to whom?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    He's a fellow libertarian. He may say things that you find humorous, but the point is serious.

    Hypothetical scenario: Your daughter stands accross the street from a rapist. Which makes her safest: A condom, a cop 5 minutes away or a concealed handgun?
    Nobody is currently talking about a handgun ban, so I fail to see how this is relevant to the discussion at hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darenyon View Post
    so what you're trying to say is.. the difference is one key part. just as i said.

    then why did you say "america isnt a tiny homogenous island country and thats why gun laws wont work"?
    they work in plenty of other countries as well. that are all special in their own ways.
    I never said gun laws won't work. That's a straw man argument. I'm just against bans. Those wont work here, and are probably unconstitutional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    He's a fellow libertarian. He may say things that you find humorous, but the point is serious.

    Hypothetical scenario: Your daughter stands accross the street from a rapist. Which makes her safest: A condom, a cop 5 minutes away or a concealed handgun?
    what about : self defense training : pepper spray: taser : a friend with her ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    He's a fellow libertarian. He may say things that you find humorous, but the point is serious.

    Hypothetical scenario: Your daughter stands accross the street from a rapist. Which makes her safest: A condom, a cop 5 minutes away or a concealed handgun?
    Neither, because she doesn't know about said rapist until it is too late, he rapes her, and then turns her gun on her. He now is armed with a gun and she's dead. Gun's didn't make the wild west any safer, why would guns do so now?

    Or said man wasn't a rapist, but she killed him and now an innocent man is dead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildtree View Post
    See, that's what I meant.... Most responsible gun owners support regulation...
    Yeah, but you act like most people support "assault weapon" bans, when that is not the case. Bans are impractical and only hurt good people. The drug war and prohibition worked so well for us
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysia View Post
    Nobody is currently talking about a handgun ban, so I fail to see how this is relevant to the discussion at hand.
    Handguns are semi-automatic. . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    Some lessons are best taught through comedy
    yeah, but I fail to see the connection to Piers Morgan. Am I too sleepy already?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anevers View Post
    Neither, because she doesn't know about said rapist, he rapes her, turns her gun on her. He now is armed with a gun and she's dead. Gun's didn't make the wild west any safer, why would guns do so now?
    Wild West was pretty damn safe actually
    http://www.examiner.com/article/disp...-the-wild-west
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anevers View Post
    Neither, because she doesn't know about said rapist until it is too late, he rapes her, and then turns her gun on her. He now is armed with a gun and she's dead. Gun's didn't make the wild west any safer, why would guns do so now?

    Or said man wasn't a rapist, but she killed him and now an innocent man is dead.
    And statistically less than 1% of crimes involved with guns, the gun is turned on the owner. True fact. Look back a few pages and find the FBI statistic on this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Handguns are semi-automatic. . .
    But not currently targeted by the ban. All revolvers and most clip-based handguns aren't even close to being in the categories up for banning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    I never said gun laws won't work. That's a straw man argument. I'm just against bans. Those wont work here, and are probably unconstitutional.
    banning certain types of weapons doesnt seem to be. the only reason things havent worked here is loopholes & lack of enforcement. other countries get their guns from *us*.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    Wild West was pretty damn safe actually
    http://www.examiner.com/article/disp...-the-wild-west
    Speakin of which, how is the gun ban in Chicago working for the denizens there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysia View Post
    But not currently targeted by the ban. All revolvers and most clip-based handguns aren't even close to being in the categories up for banning.
    Well fully automatic "assault" weapons have already been banned in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Linkedblade View Post
    Speakin of which, how is the gun ban in Chicago working for the denizens there?

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    Well fully automatic "assault" weapons have already been banned in the US.
    I don't know why don't you get a shovel and ask them?
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