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Want my flying mounts? Mολὼν λαβέ.
Right, as the world goes, is only in question between equals in power, while the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must.- Thucydides
There is a modern myth that people have always tended towards democracy, constitutions, electoral rights; but in truth, love of freedom has never been the predominant note of popular politics. At most times, popular demand has been for a strong government.- Eugen Weber
That's not to say that there aren't bad things about flying. I do think they detract from world PvP... but I don't think removing them will really make much of a difference. What WILL make more of a difference is to give incentive to PvP out in the world. I think it's a change in player philosophy, and one that is rather unfortunate. Flying mounts aren't what's killing it. It's the lack of incentive. Or perhaps it was a flawed concept to begin with. If people originally did it for fun, and it's no longer fun, despite being perfectly possible in certain areas where players congregate, then it may simply be a broken idea.
I have no problem with not being able to air mount after fighting someone in PVP. If you get PVP flagged then you should not be able to air mount for the duration of the PVP flag (5 mins).
Making blanket rules that effect non-pvpers is no better than throwing the baby out with the bath water.
If you want to come onto a forum and play devils advocate and expect to hide behind an 'I'm entitled to my opinion' shield then expect someone else to state their opinion that your opinion sucks. Its the internet, man up and get use to it.
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People have spent quite a bit of gold (main and alts) to have their 310 flying speed. I'd be pretty pissed if they did this. Leave the flying mounts alone. A huge majority of the community want them.
Also, if some people want to "experience" the world more, by not flying, then use your ground mounts. Nothing is stopping you from doing it. Why are you trying to make others?
You can have your cake and eat it too. Back in TBC I did do a good bit of PvP, especially world PvP for those objectives, and you know why? Because it gave me a reason to do it. They were pretty active too, sometimes these battles could grow to 20 vs 20, or even more! I had a reason to jump off my flying mount... and while I had fun doing it, it was less fun than other things I could have been doing, which is why those objectives actually helped. I think that's what the PvP community needs... something to make them want to get off their mounts, rather than just taking away the mounts, which is a very sloppy way of fixing things.
My response to the poll question is, what are we trying to solve that this might be the solution? I didn't realize there was a problem that needed solving. Also, what about drafts and gliding? How long is "realistic" enough before fatigue starts to set in? I mean, this would "solve" nothing unless what you want to solve is that too few people are frustrated and annoyed by being able to get where they want to go in a timely, non annoying fashion (or in the fashion that they choose.)
Last edited by Kagonos; 2013-01-09 at 06:27 PM. Reason: minor spelling
I can teach you how to play, but I can't fix stupid.
I've been playing this game since a few months before the release of TBC and I'm scratching my head trying to remember the days of hordes of level capped players travelling around Azeroth exploring every nook and cranny. It just didn't happen. Before flying players would do what they have to do at level cap, mount up, and charge through the mobs to their next objective and once they were done in an area it was off to a flight master for an alt tab session back to a city. By far the majority of players don't really care to forced to slow down to enjoy the scenery when they have already seen it once while levelling. Exploring and enjoying the scenery was always a personal preference and not game aspect taken away and it's still very much in the game should that type of thing rock your boat. Taking away flying mounts isn't going to make us all go "Oh right this is what we were missing!".
Once an actual problem is found, then I might listen to these 'solutions'.
Until then, it's a simple "No". Despite the poll not having an actual "No" answer.
'Don't think so' means that you're really not sure. Basically you have 2 'Maybe' options and a 'Yes' option.
This thread isn't about getting us to enjoy the scenery, its just a smoke cloud. You can enjoy more scenery from the back of a flying mount than you can on a ground mount. This is about people who had the pleasure sensors in their brain stimulated in Vanilla wow when you had to ground pound everywhere and that stimulation wore off when they were unable to accept a change in the game. So they connect not flying with enjoyment because back when they enjoyed it they could not fly, thus that must be the missing ingredient to why they no longer enjoy the game. Nothing is stopping them from using a ground mount instead of a flying mount except that everyone else can use the flying mount and that disturbs their memory of how things use to be before the change that they did not adapt to.
Get off my lawn!!!
I go the opposite route. I want riding from lv 1. I was soooo sick of getting my monk to 20 to finally ride (slowly). He is my 11th toon. I cannot take the first 20 lv anymore. And now that he is 27 I hate to ride on that slow mount through half of Orgrimmar and to Durotar to do a daily fishing quest and ride back. It is a chore rvrn to do the "Steal from our own" daily. It takes ages to ride out and fish that pike from the southfury river.....
And I walked to 40 on 5 characters in Classic and spend tons of hours pre-flying mount, so don't tell me I am just a casual who wants all the comfort.
Hell...give me FLYING at lv 1 - how is THAT for somebody screaming loudly for the opposite?
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But if they were to add fatigue, would that make mechanical flying mounts superior to animal based mounts? Unless you call their "Fatigue" like "Refueling."
Either way, don't you dare touch my mounts.
It's complete crap imo