Patch 5.2 16446 - New Models (Titan, Dark Saurok, etc)

**dokhidamo** · 2013-01-10, 05:27 AM

Originally Posted by -Apathy-

Got this from Mech from his SoL thread

And well the thread bellow this

So he is a watcher, neat.

And that's awesome to think that Lei Shen could defeat it.

**Immitis** · 2013-01-10, 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by Constellation

We'll find out how. The Origins of the Mogu are in this patch. Maybe they were a rebellious sect of Titan constructions; the first to succumb to curse of Flesh?

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Watch him be a Night Elf...

the mogu were the armies of the titans that fought against the old gods when they turned into flesh the leader of the mogu basically said "im teh boss nao rawr" and went and took out ra dens heart and ate it gaining his powers. they then carried out the titans wishes in the way they thought would be best

**Drewan** · 2013-01-10, 05:29 AM

there is a loa-infused compy in the files but it is just a plain vanilla red raptor but with much higher res textures.

**Justignoreme** · 2013-01-10, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by Immitis

the mogu were the armies of the titans that fought against the old gods when they turned into flesh the leader of the mogu basically said "im teh boss nao rawr" and went and took out ra dens heart and ate it gaining his powers. They then carried out the titans wishes in the way they thought would be best

If that's confirmed, that's more or less what I was thinking.

**Immitis** · 2013-01-10, 05:35 AM

Originally Posted by Constellation

If that's confirmed, that's more or less what I was thinking.

its not final but thats what the datamined dungeon journal says

**dokhidamo** · 2013-01-10, 05:43 AM

Originally Posted by Constellation

If that's confirmed, that's more or less what I was thinking.

Guessing the first part of that is right, but I think Lei'shen comes later, after the titans leave.

**Medanielle** · 2013-01-10, 11:48 AM

Wonder if it's a Titan or a Watcher; it could be the Titan that fell fighting C'thun / Y'rsaarj (it's not really clear whether Blizz retconned this) - in either case it's very interesting to see a model named 'captured titan.'

Whatever it is, it kinda looks like it might have a case of 'Curse of Flesh.'

If you consider that according to lore a Titan fell fighting one of these beings: why haven't we seen this titan, or at the very least his remains while scouting modern Azeroth. Would actually bet on it being him.

**Jess Day** · 2013-01-10, 12:36 PM

Pretty sure the Titan isn't Tyr, as it was mentioned that he was probably General Vezax.

He could be Golganneth, though that would be insanely powerful for a boss in this tier. Could be Ra'den, but eh, dubious.

**DeadmanWalking** · 2013-01-10, 01:24 PM

It looks like the flesh was removed in certain areas of the Titans body, which explains how the bell was made from the flesh of the Titans.

**Nairobi** · 2013-01-10, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Jess Day

Pretty sure the Titan isn't Tyr, as it was mentioned that he was probably General Vezax.

He could be Golganneth, though that would be insanely powerful for a boss in this tier. Could be Ra'den, but eh, dubious.

Wait, Tyr was supposed to be Vezax? Errr, wat? Can you explain this? I'm pretty new to lore and really digging learning more about this, but I'd never heard this before.

Also, agree with the "missing flesh was used to make the bell" sentiments going around. Really doubt this is a true titan, but rather what the Mogu viewed as "god" (and which Lei Shin apparently owned), simply because they did not/could not comprehend there being MORE powerful beings.

**Dumble** · 2013-01-10, 02:29 PM

Originally Posted by Nairobi

Wait, Tyr was supposed to be Vezax? Errr, wat? Can you explain this? I'm pretty new to lore and really digging learning more about this, but I'd never heard this before.

Also, agree with the "missing flesh was used to make the bell" sentiments going around. Really doubt this is a true titan, but rather what the Mogu viewed as "god" (and which Lei Shin apparently owned), simply because they did not/could not comprehend there being MORE powerful beings.

It was a theory made when Ulduar was launched, that Tyr had somehow mutated into General Vezax due to Yogg-Sarons influence.

I believe Blizzard themselves later disproved it by saying Tyr was not in Ulduar then Yogg was defeated, so Vezax couldnt have been him.

And yeah I highly doubt this "Captured Titan"/Ra-Den is Tyr. What happened to Tyr's hand if thats the case? According to wowpedia he "sacrificed his right hand in the fight against an unimagineable evil" (which I assume means the Old Gods). Tyr should have a silver right hand, the model doesnt.

**Haajib** · 2013-01-10, 03:27 PM

Its not The titan Tyr, because Tyr is missing his right hand.

**Photek** · 2013-01-10, 04:03 PM

So far it's Ra-den. Whatever more he can be, we don't know. Also straight from the PTR: http://imgur.com/GgIKJ

**Eskobar** · 2013-01-10, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Haajib

Its not The titan Tyr, because Tyr is missing his right hand.

He's not actually missing his right hand, he has a silver hand with a closed fist in it's place, which indeed this model has not.
However, back in Cata, when they released the Queen Azshara model, she also had a lot of mistakes that were fixed after, it is also possible that he is indeed Tyr but whoever was in charge of the model is not up to date with lore and will fix after.

However he is, nice to see a nice lore discussion on an expansion that many said made no sense and whose bosses were irrelevant.

**masteryuri** · 2013-01-10, 04:26 PM

Originally Posted by Dumble

It was a theory made when Ulduar was launched, that Tyr had somehow mutated into General Vezax due to Yogg-Sarons influence.

I believe Blizzard themselves later disproved it by saying Tyr was not in Ulduar then Yogg was defeated, so Vezax couldnt have been him.

And yeah I highly doubt this "Captured Titan"/Ra-Den is Tyr. What happened to Tyr's hand if thats the case? According to wowpedia he "sacrificed his right hand in the fight against an unimagineable evil" (which I assume means the Old Gods). Tyr should have a silver right hand, the model doesnt.

Someone said that indeed Tyr was not present when Yogg fell because he was already dead by the time we got to Yogg.

**ThePlanckEnergy** · 2013-01-10, 04:26 PM

I'm not so certain Lei Shen defeated him in battle. Any kind of strange deal could have been struck.

Makes no sense for the HEROIC ONLY endboss to be weaker, lore-wise, than the standard boss. Though lore-wise I suppose the same was true for Algalon/Yogg-Saron. Though we only fought a minute fraction of Yogg-Saron's true power.

I think his model is ridiculously underwhelming coming from some of the other models (Lei Shen's, notably) but I guess their hands were tied somewhat given previous representations of watchers.

**Koshido** · 2013-01-10, 04:28 PM

A cookpot Pet!
Allways wanted one!

**Dravelar** · 2013-01-10, 04:29 PM

Originally Posted by ThePlanckEnergy

I'm not so certain Lei Shen defeated him in battle. Any kind of strange deal could have been struck.

Makes no sense for the HEROIC ONLY endboss to be weaker, lore-wise, than the standard boss. Though lore-wise I suppose the same was true for Algalon/Yogg-Saron. Though we only fought a minute fraction of Yogg-Saron's true power.

I think his model is ridiculously underwhelming coming from some of the other models (Lei Shen's, notably) but I guess their hands were tied somewhat given previous representations of watchers.

Am i the only one who thinks that his model is really bad-ass?

**Wildmoon** · 2013-01-10, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dravelar

Am i the only one who thinks that his model is really bad-ass?

I think so too. It's not overdone and is about right.

**Silencer** · 2013-01-10, 04:57 PM

Damit I tought we gonna be friend with this Captured Titan

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