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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerdoz View Post
    Mainly cause most parents are completly incapable of raising a child. They scream, cry, run around and do not listen to their parents at all.

    I agree with you! I was not perfect as a kid but I knew that NO meant no and that having a tantrum got me into more trouble that it was worth. My parents were antique dealers and set up at outside shows all summer long. By 3 years old I knew NO meant NO and DON'T TOUCH really meant DON'T TOUCH . They expected me to behave and I did because they actually parented me and I knew the consequences of not behaving.

    Their favorite punishment as soon as I could write was writing sentences, like 100 times which said "I will not touch anything at an antique show because it is not mine." Until ALL sentences were written we could not watch TV, play with friends, talk on the phone etc. We could go to school, church and do chores. I learned pretty darn early to behave LOL.

    They also taught me to think of others as well by doing volunteer work which I started doing with them around age 9 or 10. It taught me to really appreciate all the things I had and to learn that there are a lot of people in the world who don't have anything!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drithiend View Post
    I think it's mostly because a lot of people allow themselves to be selfish to such an extent that they can't perceive what is good about kids. See, having a child is a situation where you devote almost, if not, all of your life, your energy, time, focus, everything, to make sure your child(ren) grows up nicely. And you get exactly nothing in return. That seems an alien concept to a lot of people sadly, since they expect their little dog-treats for everything they do, ironically like spoilt little brats.
    As you've said, children are expensive and demanding, and a good parent sacrifices everything for zero physical gain. Does it really surprise anyone that some people want to pass on such an arrangement?

    The selfish argument is silly. If you're going to define selfish in the strictest sense to mean making any choice that benefits you personally, then sure, but you should also consider that you can use that sort of extreme definition to classify just about anything in life as selfish -- including deciding to have children just as much as deciding not to.

    (Just to be clear, I don't think being a parent is a selfish decision. Quite the opposite - I think the best parents are extremely selfless. I'm just using it as an example of how flexible the interpretation of that word can be)

    In practice, "selfish" is a more nuanced word. It holds the connotation of doing something for personal gain that is detrimental to other people in a significant way and is generally reserved for that use. Deciding not to have children is certainly less selfish than many of the mundane choices we make every day - like choosing to buy a new video game instead of donating an extra $40 to charity, or choosing to spent two hours participating in a hobby instead of volunteering. But being childless doesn't harm anyone, but that $40 or two hours of time might have fed a dozen people at a soup kitchen. So if it is selfish, it's still far less selfish than many little choices we make dozens of times a day and think nothing of.

    In reality, almost every decision we make in life from the serious to the trivial is done by making a cost:benefit analysis in our head, sometimes consciously, sometimes unconsciously. For you the perceived benefits of raising children outweight the perceived negatives. For me they don't. It's as simple as that. Neither of us should have to defend our choices to the other person, nor should we be attacked for making a different choice to begin with.

    I'm not a bad person. I'm not harming anyone. If anything, I'd like to think I am a good person for making a decision to leave parenting up to the people who really passionately love children rather than being just another mediocre parent in world that is already full of too many of those.

    People should focus their energy on the plethora of people who have children but neglect or mistreat them. They're the real problem, and they are the real selfish people in this situation.
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    Annoying, I don't like them.

    Luckily I'll never have kids

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    I don't think I was ever ready to have kids but it was forced on me by cultural society and family to have them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drithiend View Post
    I think it's mostly because a lot of people allow themselves to be selfish to such an extent that they can't perceive what is good about kids. See, having a child is a situation where you devote almost, if not, all of your life, your energy, time, focus, everything, to make sure your child(ren) grows up nicely. And you get exactly nothing in return. That seems an alien concept to a lot of people sadly, since they expect their little dog-treats for everything they do, ironically like spoilt little brats.
    Not even a question this is one of the dumbest post on MMO champion ever. I feel bad for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisif View Post
    I don't think I was ever ready to have kids but it was forced on me by cultural society and family to have them
    Wow, that's shitty...

    What culture?

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    I don't hate children. What I DO hate, is young mommies who won't shut up about their "precious little angels". GAH! We all know you you had a kid and you love it very much, now can we please FOR THE LOVE OF GOD have another conversation topic?

    As to why people have children - I think it's biological. Children are continuation of your genetic material. People with really bad genetic material are "programmed" not to want kids to avoid passing bad genes. Just my theory.
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    I wouldn't go as far as to say I hate them! But it certainly annoys me when I am on Skype to friends and all we can hear in the background is their younger siblings screaming at their game of call of duty they are playing or minecraft. Always them 2 games I noticed.

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    Since we're on the subject of kids, I want to see how you would react to this situation. It happened with with brother and his 3 year old son and I was told of it.

    Your getting up early in the morning to leave to go somewhere. Your busy trying to get everything and remember all the things you need, food, changing bag, toys for the kids, phone, locking the door, everything. And yet your 3 year old son is constantly pestering you for attention even when your trying to get everything organised. The child begins to scream or thrust about for attention, even after he's been told to behave and calm down several times.

    What do you do?

    If my brother was answering this, he'd respond with how he grabbed his son, and spanked him for misbehaving. Turned out my brother felt guilty later on for it, since he promised he would ever be the kind of father who spanks his kids. But there you go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    Wow, that's shitty...

    What culture?
    I wanted a career and make money and have a nice home, to call my own, then get married and have kids if I wanted to. They took me to get married when I was only 16 because of my "behaviour" and to save their "honour"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elisif View Post
    I wanted a career and make money and have a nice home, to call my own, then get married and have kids if I wanted to. They took me to get married when I was only 16 because of my "behaviour" and to save their "honour"

    Pakistanis (I hate that word )
    -_-

    Really?

    What a cruel world....

    I have not other words for it, just unforgivable.

    Is your husband at least nice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    Since we're on the subject of kids, I want to see how you would react to this situation. It happened with with brother and his 3 year old son and I was told of it.

    Your getting up early in the morning to leave to go somewhere. Your busy trying to get everything and remember all the things you need, food, changing bag, toys for the kids, phone, locking the door, everything. And yet your 3 year old son is constantly pestering you for attention even when your trying to get everything organised. The child begins to scream or thrust about for attention, even after he's been told to behave and calm down several times.

    What do you do?

    If my brother was answering this, he'd respond with how he grabbed his son, and spanked him for misbehaving. Turned out my brother felt guilty later on for it, since he promised he would ever be the kind of father who spanks his kids. But there you go.
    Talk with him a little, hug him, smile then ensure him I will do something with him later.

    When kids get comforted they just stop....

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    The problem is that there is a huge difference between being a teacher/parent to a kid, i.e. a person they fear and respect at the instinct level, and a complete stranger. The adoring and charming kid that you know as a teacher can turn out to be a completely devout of virtues and self esteem monster when interacting with a random person. That's what i dislike in kids, lack of respect overall, even if it's just a facade and untrue. Then again, how many people actually are sincerer in their feelings towards others.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my niece, who's 4 y.o, but I can't imagine putting up with the shenanigans of a stranger kid. And when you add the thrill of being unpunished over the internet, you've got a recipe for disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by myhv View Post
    The problem is that there is a huge difference between being a teacher/parent to a kid, i.e. a person they fear and respect at the instinct level, and a complete stranger. The adoring and charming kid that you know as a teacher can turn out to be a completely devout of virtues and self esteem monster when interacting with a random person. That's what i dislike in kids, lack of respect overall, even if it's just a facade and untrue. Then again, how many people actually are sincerer in their feelings towards others.

    Don't get me wrong, I love my niece, who's 4 y.o, but I can't imagine putting up with the shenanigans of a stranger kid. And when you add the thrill of being unpunished over the internet, you've got a recipe for disaster.
    I know. :P

    Some kids look cute as hell but....grrr, so much disrespect.

    Even yesterday I was in the hallway when some kid called me fatass for no reason at all. (yes I am overweight)

    Then he ran away. I raised my voice and yelled: Come back here! *extra mad of course*

    Then I went: do you think that is normal?

    And he was like: No sir, sorry sir...

    I looked at him and he seemed like a nice kid but....he really is a little shit inside.

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    Quote Originally Posted by namelessone View Post
    As to why people have children - I think it's biological. Children are continuation of your genetic material. People with really bad genetic material are "programmed" not to want kids to avoid passing bad genes. Just my theory.
    This certainly could be one of them, but I imagine there are many reasons people don't have children. Some of them might be subconcious (like yours, or similar theories) and some could be completely conscious decisions that are logically weighed. As an example, I find the idea of such a huge resource expenditure at this point in my life to be a really bad idea. I generally file the concept of having kids as a "Someday... maybe..." sort of thing.
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    Because they're illogical and irrational. They think stupid noises and weird facial expressions are funny.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bakis View Post
    I'm disappointed, I was hoping this would be a "Why do liberals hate kids?" thread :/

    OT: I doubt anyone who haven't had kids would ever enjoy having one as fulltime job. I know I adore children but after 4h or something the yelling, adventures, can be a tad too much
    I have a full time job and like it. And don't want kids. I don't want to have to give up my life to raise a kid. Next.
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    I think I like kids because they are social sponges. I "accidentally" taught my god-daughter the booty drop dance. I know this is weird, but we were having a little dance party, my girlfriend and I were watching the kids to give my best friend a night out with his wife. The song "Apple Bottom Jeans" came on and I was being a bit of a goof and dropped my booty on my g/f's leg for a laugh, and my god-daughter saw it and started doing it...

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    OP i understand i asked the same question when i was in my teens, but from watching and learning im the eldest of four, im 21 and my youngest sibling is 13, my uncle just had 4 children, by the looks of it, kids can be fine if they have structure and parents who back each other up, but from what i see my young cousins do they pick their parents to pieces, my uncle is the alpha and his word is law, my aunt however doesnt like the fact he keeps them in line and lets them run wild.

    What this does is create chaos for the parents resulting in one of them saying "you little bastards dont ever do anything to make my life easier, kids are c***s man dont have em" i should know my mother was the alpha whose word was law and my father was a wimp that did nothing but work 16 hours a day for 5-6 days and she simply couldnt tackle it on her own although we feared her she was still fair with us.

    I see all the time when i take my girlfriend on a date to a park little toddlers disobeying their parents, some man said "jeremy DONT you jump in that puddle!" what did the little bastard do? he jumped in it, the father picked him up and carried him out of it, thats an absolute law breaker there he'd do nothing but read a book for a month if he disobeyed me.

    I was in a shopping center and this little girl kept ignoring her mother playing with the pretty things on the shelf, her mother kept 'reasoning' with her? " x come here i will not tell you again" then counted to 3 and she still ignored her, i'd treat that situation the same as my dog, tell it once, it disobeyes grab it yourself and make it stop it.

    Depending on the naughty factor it gets locked in a bathroom for a few hours.

    Hating children is a load of shit minus a few extreme cases from what i can tell, you only hate them because you wouldnt know wtf to do to control them, hard but fair, teach them structure and demand respect, you can love them to death but they are not your equal, you feed them, you clothe them you keep them safe from bad things so why would it be such a drama to make them wash their dishes for example, show them by taking things away from them and letting them know whose boss.

    Just like a dog... on a further note, once their in their teens i'd say when they piss me off i'll just remove their door for a fortnight

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    Quote Originally Posted by coolkingler1 View Post
    I know. :P

    Some kids look cute as hell but....grrr, so much disrespect.

    Even yesterday I was in the hallway when some kid called me fatass for no reason at all. (yes I am overweight)

    Then he ran away. I raised my voice and yelled: Come back here! *extra mad of course*

    Then I went: do you think that is normal?

    And he was like: No sir, sorry sir...

    I looked at him and he seemed like a nice kid but....he really is a little shit inside.
    my three year old nephew called his baby brother 'douchebag' when I saw him once. I had to restrain myself to stop from bursting out with laughter, and tell him that is a naughty word and its not nice calling his brother that. Obviously my brother felt it the right moment to say douchebag in front of his son.
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    Kids are GREAT , when the parents invest a lot of time into teaching them how to behave . Spoiled hysterical brats I hate .

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