Could be me, but I don't see the logic in "They are unreasonable, so we insult them!"
It's a democracy.Do you think that people who think interracial marriage should be illegal are the types of people that should be calmly reasoned with? No, they should be steamrolled right the hell out of the conversation, because their position is fundamentally illogical, unreasonable, and based on hatred and ignorance, just like anti-gay positions. You don't have discussions with those sorts of people. You expose them and push them out of the mainstream where they belong. You sideline them. When you give them an equal seat at the table and give their hate credence, you are ceding ground to their absurd positions that do not deserve that level of respect.
They are a big group.
So unless you want to go fascist on their asses, you have no choice but to reason with them.
In my experience that's the mature thing to do and will result into a solution instead of two groups insulting each other in nationwide media.
It's what we do here.
And here we have same-sex marriages.
I hate both gay and anti-gay activists, both are fucking idiots. I get along just fine with "normal" gay people. (not sure how I could have phrased it different)
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Also I like how the usual anti-equality posters here are complaining about being generalised in a thread where the only real conversation ought to be universal condemnation of an inexcusable child abusers. When there's like maybe one or two posts that makes it about "ALL" anti-equality people. "All these comments" indeed.
This is half the reason people don't/won't support anything Christian. It's not JUST because they don't share their beliefs... it's because they can't be trusted. I can name, maybe, about a dozen or so Christians that I trust explicitly.
"Do not only practice your art, but force yourself into its secrets, for it and knowledge can raise men to the divine." -- Ludwig Van Beethoven
Wow, I was not expecting this as something I'd wake up to. Glad to see that she got a pretty quick conviction, and I hope her daughter's okay.
I'm not a mod of the OT forums, but I do feel that the discussion would be better used on the actual topic and not the more volatile posters.
You're still acting holier-than-thou with your bashing of a minority fighting for equality, by equating them to the side of discrimination and bigotry.
This doesn't even make sense. A gay person IS still a normal person.a gay person who you wouldn't even notice he was gay since he acts like any normal person would.
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Pedophilia is just another sexual orientation. The only difference is that it still suffers the same stigma's homosexuality did 40 years ago. Mental disorder, shock them and lock them up. Now we accept them, time to join the 21st century people, not all sexual relationships are between a man and a woman.
Homosexuality is between consenting adults. Safe, sane and consensual activity between adults is no business of you or anyone else. Pedophilia involves someone who cannot consent. The difference between convicted pedophiles and homosexuals is that these pedophiles are rapists.
If they don't act on their desires then it's a different issue.