View Poll Results: Will Velen's vision of Anduin Wrynn come true

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I like my Alliance heroes being, you know, Alliance. Not characters out of Hello Kitty Island Adventure.
    This isn't Hello Kitty Island Adventure. Since you decided to demean Anduin and not actually give a good substantial reason I'm going to presume you don't have one.
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    if garrosh and varian both die in the final fight there could be a truce or atleast another cold war
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archdruid Dehydrate View Post
    Anduin will be trained by Turalyon to become a Paladin.
    While that would be epic, Anduin seems more like a priest than a paladin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron View Post
    This isn't Hello Kitty Island Adventure. Since you decided to demean Anduin and not actually give a good substantial reason I'm going to presume you don't have one.
    He's a Mary Sue in the exact definition of the word, a character that lacks any concieveable or critical character flaws such as those found in Sophoclean tragedy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    He's a Mary Sue in the exact definition of the word, a character that lacks any concieveable or critical character flaws such as those found in Sophoclean tragedy.
    He isn't a mary sue. You can't just call a character that because you don't like it. The only close to Mary Sue character is Med'an. And honestly I'd think if one has a flaw regardless of criticalness or not is still not a mary sue. People need to stop using the word Mary Sue as if it's a piece of candy Wrapper.
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    Anduin Wrynn heart is for everyone not just the Alliance . He saved both sides by stepping up to Garrosh while everyone else just waits . He is a true hero .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    He's a Mary Sue in the exact definition of the word, a character that lacks any concieveable or critical character flaws such as those found in Sophoclean tragedy.
    kind-hearted person =/= mary sue.

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    I really dont think thats good storytelling, until now that kid has been "a little shite" to every horde player who's raided Stormwind. Plus hes not exactly done anything other than be ressed by velen after getting mushed by garrosh. They would have to somehow squeeze 50 epic scenarios into the story before he was even qualified to be a shining lightbringer of holy goodness and all that stuff.

    Plus to lead the naaru and the dragons, you'd have to be packing some serious power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron View Post
    He isn't a mary sue. You can't just call a character that because you don't like it. The only close to Mary Sue character is Med'an. And honestly I'd think if one has a flaw regardless of criticalness or not is still not a mary sue. People need to stop using the word Mary Sue as if it's a piece of candy Wrapper.
    I can, because he is. He's an overly likeable character lacking concievable flaws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I can, because he is. He's an overly likeable character lacking concievable flaws.
    Overly likeable.....there is a large portion of the community who hates him.....all of my "what?".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovecrafts View Post
    Overly likeable.....there is a large portion of the community who hates him.....all of my "what?".
    "Overly likeable" discounts the cynical
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovecrafts View Post
    Overly likeable.....there is a large portion of the community who hates him.....all of my "what?".
    Likeable by everyone in lore, except those that are going to die anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I can, because he is.
    If he were a Mary Sue he would have just defeated Garrosh with his mastery of the light during their encounter, while being impressive in general. Instead he was just quickly crushed.

    Anduin is neither powerful or an all-round talent, nor particularly intelligent or good-looking. It is thus unfair to call him a Mary Sue. He is just a very idealistic teenager who happens to be a prince. That is all.
    Last edited by iscalio; 2013-01-13 at 08:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron View Post
    He isn't a mary sue. You can't just call a character that because you don't like it. The only close to Mary Sue character is Med'an. And honestly I'd think if one has a flaw regardless of criticalness or not is still not a mary sue. People need to stop using the word Mary Sue as if it's a piece of candy Wrapper.
    As I've been saying, the level of ridiculousness on these forums with people using that line is as bad as people using the term gay to describe something they find displeasing, and yet when you confront them on it they try and swear 'its doesn't mean gay gay is means gay lame'. Its beyond ridicule, its boarding on taking a pee on a soldiers grave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I can, because he is. He's an overly likeable character lacking concievable flaws.
    you really have no stretch of imagination when it comes to characterization in this kind of format.

    You really are the sort of person who thinks any good guy character in warcraft is a sue, simply because there not warmongering tools of war and want something else. If you actually took the time to learn about the characters instead of throwing off first hand assessments of there actions you might understand what the writers are doing.
    Last edited by Trassk; 2013-01-13 at 09:25 PM.

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    I'm guessing half-true. E.g. Anduin will be there inspiring the forces, but other people would also be there to share the leadership.
    Now you see it. Now you don't.

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    Probably yes, but you'd have thought that the Humans would've learnt now.

    Look at their last Paladin-Prince and tell me how well that turned out. >.>

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    i think his vision is about the same as mine

    maybe 16 14?

    on a serious note yeah audin will beat the legion with magical lightness some how

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trassk View Post
    I would trust velen's visions far more then say Genn Greymanes, since Genns are usually brought on by eating to much cheese and becoming a bit of a farty wolf.

    But back to Anduin, it really depends on how many years on wow's story will go. The vision was of him as an adult (possibly), so unless theres an accident with gnomes tempering with temporal anomalies, we're have to wait and see if the story goes that far.

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    I think Anduin would be better off representing the Priest class. Paladins already get enough inspiration.
    Last edited by Rainiothon; 2013-01-13 at 10:31 PM.

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    Maybe Anduin actually did die at Garrosh's hands (even though he's shown at 1hp) ... I mean ... a grown-ass orc striking down a teenage human ... no way he should have survived ... except via plot armor I guess ... but what's even more immersion-breaking is that they would just leave him there without verifying he's dead or taking his body/corpse, or something ...

    So maybe I just like to fix plotholes in my head, but I imagine Wrathion has something to do with Anduin being alive and well, considering what happens in 5.2 ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    He's a Mary Sue in the exact definition of the word, a character that lacks any concieveable or critical character flaws such as those found in Sophoclean tragedy.
    He's an idealistic teenager.

    You don't need to tack on "...with a drinking problem!" or "...with a past that haunts him to this day!" or "...out for cold hearted vengeance against those who kidnapped his daughter!" to make him a "realistic" character.

    I'd think that intentionally writing every character with some deep dark flaw would be just as poor of a storytelling angle.
    Last edited by Kaleredar; 2013-01-13 at 10:40 PM.
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