What it is meant for is to weed out the dumbfucks who are playing on an old rig with 2 FPS. Nowadays they're a rare breed though.
They're also making sure you know what you are playing with, are able to look this up, and that it is good enough. It is relevant for 25m guilds and top end, but also even less serious guilds. You don't want to have a fellow in your raid who's having overheating issues. If they didn't state they had these issues in their app they held back important information about themselves which means gkick or social status.
Personally, I always need to look up what my specs are when someone asks because it isn't even something I obsess about or remember (I completely laugh at all the spec linking in sigs, calling it ricer and epeen). I am well past that age. Also, as a 10m raider my settings are optimized for 10m quality raiding. If I am going to do Sha or LFR my FPS won't be high enough for my own standards. I can either live with it, or lower my graphics settings. I generally opt for the former, I don't care much about my performance in either of these settings. If I were to join a 25m raiding guild I'd certainly adapt beforehand by lowering my graphics settings (also because I want good logs). Actually, more likely I'd spend some money and upgrade computer parts.
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"When i am done with you, you won't trust your own mind."
I loved writing guild applications in TBC/Wotlk
Your stories are great, too bad all of us had those moments. People did the same shit in Vanilla dude.
What you are missing: Its THEIR GUILD, so they can be as PICKY as they like.
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My server was old, and yes there were still trolls in Vanilla. Where do you think the term "loot ninja" came from? Rogues needing on lockboxes saying "I need for lock picking!" and the like .... yes, common everywhere in vanilla.
Regardless, my server has nothing to do with this topic.
But they also got called out on it and marked as such. Wasn't the same sorta problem. And group wise as long as it wasn't the leader they weren't kick proof by having buddies.
As Blizzard makes things more accessible, the top end users find their own ways to gate as much of the game off as they can.
What if that Shadow Priest is your best dps?Depends. In 10m it can be important. If you got good alternatives you can stick the spriest with shadow and let the shaman use their off spec instead. Then, when required, said shaman would be able to go healing. If that shaman has good attendance, the priest can stick to shadow (which he's very good at). There's no problem. But if nobody can reliably fill that spot of off healing you may be better off with an spriest who is able to play their off spec well.
For example, as Barberry's post right above there inspired me to do, looking at her wow-heroes profile to see that she, in ilvl 497 gear, has never ranked above 200 for any fight ever (outside of LFR, which I don't understand why people log), it's safe to say that she is not a good player who is only brought otraids to fill empty spots (rather than because there are alternatives).
I don't put a lot of emphasis on the importance of scoring highly on the logs (since they're easy to manipulate), but if you're a good player you should be ranking highly all of the time as a mere side-effect of you being a good player who knows what they're doing, without actually going out of your way to hit the top 10 or something.
“To who do you reward the right to decide which speech is harmful, or who is the harmful speaker? Or to determine in advance what are the harmful consequences going to be, that we know enough about in advance to prevent? [...] It may not be determined in advance what words are apt or inapt. No one has the knowledge that would be required to make that call.”
- Christopher Hitchens, 1949 - 2011
This is my own personal little hate in to many guild's attitude to requirement: previous experience > all. No matter if I later meet them in random run and catch them on stupidiest mistakes or outright not knowing stuff written openly in dungeon journal, but if at moment of applying I don't show them previous kills, they won't even listen why I don't have them.
Or to further the job interview analogy, would you call the interviewer out on some possible bad work you are aware of him doing stating you can do it better? You can be as right as you want but very few will be happy to say that you looked promising when you basically threatened their own position. WoW's position is more social (for those who may not get the leap)
I also agree with Cattlehunter. If you have a lot of logs you should naturally be ranking a fair amount. The reason to use something like LFR (not for ranks but for performance analysis) is that for people like myself, almost all my raid logs have been private just because thats how the guilds I was in did it. They weren't interested in showing off as much as just using it for analysis.
Guilds have the right to use whatever filtering they wish when they get new members. You can question their reasoning and methods but you can never deny them their methods. If the dont want you in for this/that reason... they you dont get in simple as that. Forcing your welcome is the most arrogant thing one can do if one cant take the "hint". No means no son end of story.
Guild apps are here to stay.
You must've had experience with some pretty shitty jobs. McDonalds? Store clerk or waiter? Because in most highly competitive industries that actually require a brain, being able to accurately analyze what recruiting tech guy tells you about how things generally work in company and point problems is that is instant hire ticket. People LOVE when someone have good insight.Or to further the job interview analogy, would you call the interviewer out on some possible bad work you are aware of him doing stating you can do it better? You can be as right as you want but very few will be happy to say that you looked promising when you basically threatened their own position. WoW's position is more social (for those who may not get the leap)
It seems to me that you're follower of "don't be smart, be obedient" way and that's pretty much what applications is all about. No wonder you support them.
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