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  1. #161
    Quote Originally Posted by Washuwa View Post
    then stay in TERA and dont play wow, and i can guarantee that you would say oh.. tera developers are lazy becausse they not offer this and that and wow does...

    if i could get 5 cents for every player saying "im going to stop playing wow blizzard" ... really blizzard is not going to change everything just because someone is whinning about something they already know they had to change.... and using the "IM GOING TO STOP PLAYING" is like mom jokes in college...
    way to misread my post bro , i said when i switch games player models look shit like 6 year old machinima vids.
    Your initial response ? '' QQ stay on your other shit game '' , lord forbids anyone says valid criticism on anything WoW related...Unless you're trying to say current models before Worgen look ''decent''.

    And i also clearly said '' would i stop playing because of it? no '' so why do you bring in the '' QQ im gonna stop playing '' reply ?

  2. #162
    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    a) It WON'T be the feature of the next expansion, I can 100% guarantee this. New class, race, zones, etc is the selling point for expansions.
    b) It WILL be staggered over time. It's the perfect business decision, release a new model each patch and watch the race / faction changes increase. I'm pretty sure we will see these playable Troll models, and an Alliance race (I think they said Dwarves were finished) in 4.2, 4.3 at the latest.

    100% huh, and your source is what exactly?

  3. #163
    Quote Originally Posted by Voyager View Post
    No, he looks like a monkey now. Old Thrall looked way better.
    The model still looks good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Luciferiuz View Post
    Kids, kids. The best racing game of all time was Need for Speed: Underground 2.

    Don't be naive.

    Sega GT blow that shit out of the water brah.

    anyone have a wire frame model for the pandas?

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    http://i.imgur.com/vDUDe.png

    edit: fzero gx if your manly enough
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    Quote Originally Posted by Florena View Post
    OMG I remember that game!
    at least its in the race for most cute arcade race game? Although it was inspired by Super Mario Kart.

    Another one I really liked was the original Test Drive!! The first time in my life I drove a Corvette!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edds View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/vDUDe.png

    edit: fzero gx if your manly enough

    Quote Originally Posted by Edds View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/tPiJs.png - most of the armor removed
    who knows. its not even close to pandaren quality


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    edit: fzero gx if your manly enough
    Omg I played that on an Emulator when I visited my friend. Crazy game.

  9. #169
    Quote Originally Posted by Augh View Post
    @Yig - Yeah all the stylisation is a lot of give and take, oversized hands and feet is a pretty commonplace deal with character design for a bunch of artistic and mechanical reasons, glancing briefly over signature links I know I'm preaching to the choir. Obviously it often backfires (Streetfighter 4 characters how you doin), but yeah playing with proportions is kinda fun and often makes or breaks the look of a project. I just often wonder how much of it really is intentional, it sure ain't all. I can't deal with anything on my feet ingame except the newer plate boot model brought in for Wrath for those exact reasons. I still think the human male faces for example are a case of questionable judgment/execution, and there are several others, but everyone has their own take on such things.

    We'll see how they handle things eventually, probably, but given the limitations of the SC2 engine and the amount of shit onscreen at times they are definitely fairly constrained in what they can actually do.
    I think he human hair-lip is an example of how they only model and skin half of the body and then duplicate it to make a full body. But for wrists, I don't see why they could not have put a slope there if they wanted to. Not all of the vanilla models lack wrists. But then again, even if it was a matter of exaggerated style, it's one of the number one complaints about the model next to the hair lip since time immemorial. I wouldn't be surprised to see it changed, like the orc posture issue as well, just because so many people ask for it to be changed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quikbunny View Post
    a) It WON'T be the feature of the next expansion, I can 100% guarantee this. New class, race, zones, etc is the selling point for expansions.
    b) It WILL be staggered over time. It's the perfect business decision, release a new model each patch and watch the race / faction changes increase. I'm pretty sure we will see these playable Troll models, and an Alliance race (I think they said Dwarves were finished) in 4.2, 4.3 at the latest.
    I'm going to bookmark this post to look back on when all is said and done. I completely disagree.

    The dwarves should have been finished around 5 months ago already. And no, these troll models have nothing to do with player models. We were told humans and orcs were started a couple of months ago, and not a week later we were told Zandalari trolls were being updated for the raid. They would have told us if they working on troll player models too at the same time as GC mentioned humans and orcs. There's no reason to keep that hidden for a surprise.

    I think if they were going for a staggered release we would have already seen something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildmoon View Post
    I just want new NE male model so bad. I want more muscular body like Malfurion model. NE males were described to be muscular in lore and all artworks showed that. Malfurion model's body is perfect.
    I think Illidan's is better and I wish they would make a new Malfurion using Illidan's new model as a base. They are twin brothers afterall.

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v8...k/illidan1.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolston View Post
    100% huh, and your source is what exactly?
    Nobody has said new player updates are the main selling point of the next expansion. They have said they will be A selling pointing, not THE. Which Quikbunny seems to not be understanding. Just as updated water and shadows have been A selling point.

    We could very well have a new class and the updated models both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edds View Post
    http://i.imgur.com/vDUDe.png

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    How did you make this?

    Quote Originally Posted by FluFF View Post
    way to misread my post bro , i said when i switch games player models look shit like 6 year old machinima vids.
    Your initial response ? '' QQ stay on your other shit game '' , lord forbids anyone says valid criticism on anything WoW related...Unless you're trying to say current models before Worgen look ''decent''.

    And i also clearly said '' would i stop playing because of it? no '' so why do you bring in the '' QQ im gonna stop playing '' reply ?
    Worgen female caster = fail.

  11. #171
    Quote Originally Posted by lolalola View Post
    How did you make this?

    Worgen female caster = fail.
    Bear in mind: You not liking a style or look to something doesn't change the quality of the graphical fidelity and specs. Casting animations could look dumb as hell but the model would still look more advanced. Random commentary aside.
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    I'm desperate for new models as well, but these things take time. If you rush these things, they'll look awful! :P

    And when they finally come around, I gurantee that people will whine about how they miss their old models. :\

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    Bear in mind: You not liking a style or look to something doesn't change the quality of the graphical fidelity and specs. Casting animations could look dumb as hell but the model would still look more advanced. Random commentary aside.
    The irony lies in the quality of the model versus the look of the caster animation. Its a contrast. You pick A (good), you get B (bad) as a byproduct. For alliance, worgen was the best race for caster DPS (in Cata): for mage (esp fire), lock, priest, boomkin. Shaman can't roll worgen. Also, its not just me. I'm not some kind of random fluke who doesn't like the animation. I've never met anyone who likes the worgen caster female animation.

    Either way, I'm curious if the overhaul of new character models could lead to (some) adjusted or completely replaced/new animations.

  14. #174
    Quote Originally Posted by lolalola View Post
    The irony lies in the quality of the model versus the look of the caster animation. Its a contrast. You pick A (good), you get B (bad) as a byproduct. For alliance, worgen was the best race for caster DPS (in Cata): for mage (esp fire), lock, priest, boomkin. Shaman can't roll worgen. Also, its not just me. I'm not some kind of random fluke who doesn't like the animation. I've never met anyone who likes the worgen caster female animation.

    Either way, I'm curious if the overhaul of new character models could lead to (some) adjusted or completely replaced/new animations.
    I think the animations people grow attached to will stay, you might see smoother movement in the animations and more detail in them but they will remain the same.
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  15. #175
    Quote Originally Posted by ace94 View Post
    I stopped playing WoW until they update the models which are a decade old by now. And my bet is that we won't even see them in MoP, rather in the next expansion as something "new" which should be out by now if they weren't scratching their ...

    Anyone else that shares my opinion? Are Blizzard really that slow or a company which makes billions can't afford to get this needed change out for so long?
    I agree. New models will be great. MOP is better designed and has more polygons everywhere. Just missed improve models.
    The difference between a goblin or panda against a human, undead or tauren becomes outrageous.
    WOW is still a great mmo, but why not improve? I don't understand why some people on this forum are always against change, even if they are to improve something. New models are bad? Why?? For God's sake, can someone explain this?
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  16. #176
    I don't think they'll all come out at once. Blizz has said, if I recall correctly, that dwarves are the closest to done followed by humans/orcs. They'll probably be released with major patches as they're done individually or in pairs, rather than as an expansion feature.

  17. #177
    Quote Originally Posted by Florena View Post
    I don't think they'll all come out at once. Blizz has said, if I recall correctly, that dwarves are the closest to done followed by humans/orcs. They'll probably be released with major patches as they're done individually or in pairs, rather than as an expansion feature.
    Blizzard said they aren't sure what or how they are releasing them, the last time they said this was many months ago.

    Dwarves were said to be finished probably around the time of MOP's release, but Tom Chilton told Pico when he said this not to think he meant that means they would be and that it is quite possible all of the models are being released at the same time, essentially.

    We then learned via an interview with Ghostcrawler for the release of MOP that orcs and humans were just started on. It's very doubtful this is going to be staggered, that would be like having your Christmas or birthday presents spread out over the year in my opinion which would suck.
    I think if we were seeing a staggered release we would have already heard or seen something about this project. It's been in development for over a year now.
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    Yeaaaa Blizzard screw real content force our dem models so we can cry about them!!1

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolalola View Post
    The irony lies in the quality of the model versus the look of the caster animation. Its a contrast. You pick A (good), you get B (bad) as a byproduct. For alliance, worgen was the best race for caster DPS (in Cata): for mage (esp fire), lock, priest, boomkin. Shaman can't roll worgen. Also, its not just me. I'm not some kind of random fluke who doesn't like the animation. I've never met anyone who likes the worgen caster female animation.

    Either way, I'm curious if the overhaul of new character models could lead to (some) adjusted or completely replaced/new animations.
    Recently we've learned not only are the animations being updated to be more Pandaren quality animations, but that they are specifically redoing all of the old animations to look updated and polished while being the same basic maneuvers. As an example the dev cited undead strike animations which make them flip, will still be the same, but they will look more polished with all the cartoon physics and style and expression you see in the modern Pandaren animations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Satanous View Post
    Yeaaaa Blizzard screw real content force our dem models so we can cry about them!!1
    It's not a choice between what you consider "real" content and models anyways, so there was no need for you to try your very best to spell and type this sentence and you could have really saved your energy for what you feel is important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yig View Post
    They would have told us if they working on troll player models too at the same time as GC mentioned humans and orcs. There's no reason to keep that hidden for a surprise.
    Not necessarily true. Given the shitstorm that has happened in the past when Blizz would drop info about stuff that they eventually cut (Dance studio, Path o' Titans, etc) they do have a very good reason to keep player expectations muted. It even happened when they very clearly said they were working on dwarves but that they wouldn't be ready for MoP launch. The playerbase went nuts with speculation.

    That being said, I agree with you that they will release them all together, but they do have a reason to keep their cards close to their chest.
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