I don't think they generally dislike immigrants.
Public perception of immigrants is negative due to their crime rates.
Public perception of immigrants is negative due to culture
Public perception of immigrants is due to their lack of assimilation.
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There was a large flood of immigrants in Sweden in the 60s and 70s, mainly from southern Europe, that settled in Sweden for life as well. Sweden's small golden age, so to speak.
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Because the household owners charge too much. What else can we do with immigrants? Let them live on the street while they wait? I think the state should start building immigration apartments owned by the state and not private businesses, at least then lots of tax money could be saved in the long run. Immigrants aren't to blame for costs.
Greece usually gives them temporary documents and points them to Kulata where they try to get in by hiding in trucks/trains. Not a week goes by without a iraqi, afghan or a syrian group being caught around Kulata.
This is one of the reason we are not in and probably wont get in soon. If we join everyone who gets in greece will have a free pass to go where he wants. I don't mind us being the buffer zone until Greece gets better security and loads of walls.
"Oh, wretched ephemeral race, children of chance and misery, why do you compel me to tell you what it would be more expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach; not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is --- to die soon." Silenus
That pretty much is the root cause of the problem.
Nothing wrong with immigrants. Problems start when the immigrants don't come looking for better life through work, but instead just leech the country's social system. An educated immigrant that specializes in something won't have problem getting a job and won't need any welfare whatsoever. To expect that one can immigrate to country that is completely different culture and language while not being able to offer anything to the country is just preposterous.
It has to be a two-way process. To immigrate into a country and expect to be tolerated and welcomed the immigrant has to give something back through his own work and effort to assimilate.
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If they're not refugees of war or something then we shouldn't take them in to begin with in that case when it ends up costing more money to the taxpayer because of piss poor bureaucracy. We should have no obligation to take immigrants, we take them if we want to but it shouldn't be forced upon us. There should only be somesort of an quota to be met when it comes to war refugees etc. like I mentioned.
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European countries don't 'generally' dislike immigrants. Just because a minority of the population is good at loudly voicing their opinion, doesn't mean that that is how people of those countries think.
Someone who posts on a gaming forum should know this.
"Oh, wretched ephemeral race, children of chance and misery, why do you compel me to tell you what it would be more expedient for you not to hear? What is best of all is utterly beyond your reach; not to be born, not to be, to be nothing. But the second best for you is --- to die soon." Silenus
It is the general mind setting to blame a group for the troubles of society.
Hitler did it, Stalin did it, Mussolini did it and this is still going on.
It's hard to argue such a complex case on an internet board. But at the core the problem is not that European Countries dislike immigrants, it's the fact that our economy can't sustain so many coming in EVERY day. Europe doesn't dislike other cultures, other religions, but that doesn't mean that we should be paying for them either.
Cus herein lies a big difference with the US. Immigrants can get a lot more welfare in Europe than in the US, due to our more socialist welfare driven system we have been developing for the last 50 years. Welfare the European population has been working for the last 50 year. Welfare that is intended to support our sick, elderly and less off, but was never intended to support the rest of the world as well.
Some numbers from my own country Belgium:
Unemployement in the entire country: 8.5%
Unemployement in capital Brussels: 25%
reason?
Unemployement in capital Brussels for immigrant families: 50%
25000 applications are made every year for naturalisation, but only half of those actually work and pay taxes, while the other half lives off welfare. This is an influx of people that a country as small as Belgium can't sustain. And this is only Belgium, a country they have to travel half the European region to get to. Meditterean countries like Greece, Malta, Cyprus, Southern Italy and Spain are getting a multitude of that number while being even less capable to sustain the influx due to their even worse economic state.
The question should not be: "why are the European countries being big baddies and not allowing immigrants to come in?" The question should be: "why are these people leaving their home countries?"
Instead of you trying to blame European countries of being racist, why don't you blame the backwards countries these people come from for being retarded? If you feel the need to better the world, go to these countries and fix their economy, fix their wars, fix their discrimination, fix their injustice against women/gay/other cultures. Maybe then the entire world as a whole will be better off. Instead of just Europe bank rolling the portion that moves here.