I was just about to post a thread on this myself after noticing it Looking forwad to it! Which means, that 5.4 could either be the 2nd to last raid or the seige of Orgimmar. Hopping for a troll raid personally
Lor'themar tried to negotiate to rejoin the Alliance.
Vol'jin asked the Alliance for support and collaborated with them in the invasion of Zul'Aman and Zul'Gurub. An unprovoked invasion even, as the Zandalari didn't even threaten the Horde or Alliance, all they did was trying to unite with their own brethren.
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Just because people like Jaina and she has done some neutral things, doesn't mean you can ignore Camp T.
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But you can't hold it against her, especially since a Sunreaver WAS a traitor.
I sure as hell can hold it against her. I understand why she felt that way but she wasn't exactly stable. I can still hold it against her as much as I want to. The Alliance isn't suddendly not responsible for their own actions. They are just as responsible for their own actions on the Horde if we want them to be responsible then we should as well. Let's not dwell on this though and not derail the topic. It's been done to death already.
Please explain how "Nothing can be worse" than destroying an enemy encampment, near your capital, that has been used as a staging point for attacks against your people. As soon as Jaina let it be used by the alliance for an attack she lost her ability to be considered neutral. It was attempted to take the city by conventional means but when that failed drastic measures had to be taken. It is no worse than the Americans using an atomic bomb on Hiroshima in world war 2 and actually better as the blast range is more controlled with no long-term fallout.
Just stop. We don't need to derail this thread anymore then it has.
That's called confirmation bias. That's like saying you were wearing a blue shirt when the Crusaders Colosseum came out and we all know what happens when you wear a blue shirt.
Why exactly would you think, other than a wild hunch and tons of conjecture, that such a thing was a result of the other?
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We may see more than three raid tiers if they'll keep delivering the content at promised pace (2 months for minor patch, 4-6 months for a raid patch). MoP isn't fixed to end on 5.3 or 5.4, might as well see 5.6, 5.7, even 5.10. Vanilla WoW had twelve patches.
If they will give us only 3 tiers and current pace - we'll kill Garrosh within 6-8 months and then...? A year of Garrosh raid again because avg time between expacs is 2 years? No thanks.
I like the idea of VP upgrade system replacing nerf/buff system they used previously. Those extra few ilevels give players extra oomph but they still fight relevant content, even final tier 11 heroic bosses were no joke in DS gear and that gear was ~40 ilvls above content, not 8.
Armory is bugged atm, showing equipped ilvl not counting upgrades so if my UI displayed itemlevel is 496/498 and armory displays 492 equipped - it means upgrades are pushing me four ilvls forward. That's about half of my gear 2/2 maxed out. Four item levels aren't anything gamebreaking, progression is still vaild, far more valid than it was in DS 0% nerf vs 15% or higher nerf.
5.3 will prbly have the 2 new Dota BGs.
Warlords of Draenor Release - June 24th 2014
(Just my own Prediction, It's not fact)
I think it's more likely 5.1: Lore Patch, 5.2: Raid Tier, 5.3: Lore Patch, 5.4: Raid Tier, 5.5: Filler
Yes, I think there will only be one real raid after 5.2. Just look at Cataclysm, it also only had 2 real raid patches.
Blizzard has been slacking more and more. This is the new Blizzard people.
Both of the news sounds great.
I love the new patch schedule. And that itemupgraders are taking a break to next patch, fine by me to :3
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No it's not. It's the same Blizzard as before and technically Cataclysm had three tiers as well. 4.0 4.2 4.3. So honestly the quality is going to increase if 5.2 is an indication of anything. MoP will have the same amount of raid tiers as Cataclysm did and not Wrath because people moaned about how we were doing ICC for almost a full year(Or was it a whole year). I doubt people want to be doing that unless people are into that sort of thing. Blizzard hasn't really changed, it's the people who play that has changed.
At worst I'd say Garrosh would try and use the Sha again but Cho Lorewalker tries to persuade him but Garrosh kills him in outright cold blood. That could be one reason for Pandaria to fear Garrosh's regime. It may not necessarily piss US off but it will annoy the Pandaren enough to stand up to Garrosh and thus maybe smack some sense in the Horde. I'm sure the plan will be much more grand but it's an idea I'd like to see if it was possible.
I have to say I am more curias as to the filler content between mop and the next expansion. I hope to god with the supposed return of the burning legion we get a kick ass legion invasion to (Speculation here) Prompt us to invade their world. a real "Fuck this shit moment. Lets kick their ass!"