Personally i think it's disgusting but people are different.
Personally i think it's disgusting but people are different.
i agree. and he wasnt "skinny" before the transformation but normal weight.I envy the determination and alot of respect for it, but I find bodies like that disgusting
/drool, Bodybuilders look amazing, i wish i had the dedication to exercise that much
Well, the transformation is definitely high lol.
I don't know if it's good or bad though. I find a lot of people try to overdo their upper body and spend very little effort on their legs, which makes people look really weird.
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If he was 18 in 2010, and 19 in 2012. A missing year unless the birthday is between march 21st and June 1st. Also a thread on that body building forum by this person states he did it with only 12 weeks of work rather then a year an 9 months. But I all that matters is that he is happy.
Body building has always seem a little silly to me. Why should people be rewarded for going over board. Body building should be about building the body and not just muscles. There is after all such a thing as being to built.
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You know a community is bad when moderators lock a thread because "...this isnt the place to talk about it either seeing as it will get trolled..."
Stop with the steroid shit, go educate yourself on bodybuilding if you actually care knowing about it, and you would see that a body like that is naturally achievable in 2 years
Free speech was part of both the Magna Carta and the Declaration of Rights. Plus it is part of the 1st amendment. Strip clubs are considered speech but can be restricted to specific parts of the city through time, place, and manner regulations. The others are also speech examples. Using steroids is not speech. Also, there is no inalienable right to be able to consume whatever you want to consume. I suppose the best argument for there being one is the right to privacy. But the right to privacy is a very nebulous thing and has historically not encompassed what you suggest it does. Steroids are also unique from alcohol and tobacco as it is not part of history and culture. Activities and things that are part of our culture are afforded greater protection than new and analogous things for political and practical reasons.
You are not being patriotic by breaking the law and taking steroids. You are being a criminal.
Prohibition proved that making alcohol illegal causes more problems than it solves. We should apply that same logic to steroids (and cannabis, and other recreational drugs).
Strip clubs are free speech? Do you realize what happens inside strip clubs? Because it sure as hell doesn't involve a lot of talking.Originally Posted by jbhasban
Your entire argument is based around the "is-ought" fallacy. You're arguing that because this is the way it is, this is the way it should be. Just because history does not support chemical substances being legal does not mean that these substances should continue to be illegal in the future.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erie_v._Pap%27s_A._M.. Truth be told ive never been in a strip joint. It would be against my religion.
Prohibition proved that banning a drug that has historically been allowed causes more problems than it solves. It does not show that banning ALL drugs causes more problems than it solves. That's why history is important. When society has accepted a drug as an ok vice, it becomes impossible to ban it because people will not follow the law. However, alcohol and tobacco serve very minor health purposes (in which case they can be used as a medicine). I don't see the purpose of using either that's why I think it should logically be banned ASSUMING society were willing to accept it.
1) Criminals can make vast amounts of profit selling drugs (this actually gives people an incentive to become criminals; those profits would not exist if drugs were legal)
2) Drug users use untested, unregulated chemicals that are much more dangerous than pure pharmaceutical chemicals
3) Prisons and jails become overcrowded: over 25% of the people in jail and prison in the US are in there for non-violent, non-DUI related drug charges
4) Once said drug users leave prison, they have felonies on their criminal record and can not get hired for meaningful jobs
Every last one of those problems would be fixed if steroids and recreational drugs were made legal. No matter how you personally feel about steroids and drugs (clearly you're against them), you have to be able to see the benefit of taking money away from criminals and allowing prisoners who have done nothing wrong other than use drugs to be accommodated back into society.
Yes, drugs and steroids can be unhealthy for you. But illegalizing these drugs only exacerbates the problem instead of solving it.
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Its cool sport if u are into it...
Hey guys idk whats with all the hate... Steroids or not its an amazing transformation. I don't see why people are butthurt over steroid use? I love bodybuilding but all I see is mostly hate from people outside of it (Talking crap about Steroids, Insulin, HCG, HGH). I want to see people push the human body to its limits, same with other sports to (Football,Rugby,MMA, ect, ect) I WANT TO SEE PEOPLE PERFORM. Drugs or not, Its not like your gonna shoot some Testosterone Enanthate into your glute and win a Mr Olympia, or win the SuperBowl, or win a Heavyweight mma title, ect, ect. Its just sad how the media makes it seems like its a horrible thing. We all know steroid use in sports are strong... But nobody wants to tell the kids? An adult can be as stupid as a kid when it comes to AAS (Just look at the Media, Filled with Adults that dont know jack shit about steroids LOL) . Its not like just because you get older you automatically gain knowledge about everything. If this kid is going go pro then there isnt a problem. But if he is using Steroids to get girls or noticed at the club...THen.... He probably wont be a pro.
Does smoking cause similar and worse problems? Yeah. But smoking's allure is supposed coolness. Smoking really is not considered cool anymore and the primary reason people still take it is because of its addictive nature. That smoking is addictive is both a reason to keep it legal and to ban it depending on your interpretation of the purpose of society (an addicted population needs to have access to their addiction or they will become unruly and damaging). Steroids on the other hand are used regularly by the general population in order to try and look like magazine cover models who tend to be anorexic and genetically gifted in the first place and are not chemically addictive. We put warnings on smoking packets and have had active campaigns to fight big tobacco. Most adults are not intelligent enough to know the risks associated with steroids and that magazine cover models are not realistic ideals. Kids are even more prone to ignorance on the issue and are even more susceptible to the damages of steroids. As for allowing athletes to use steroids openly? Then we promote a generation of teenagers and parents of teenagers to give their children steroids in the hopes that they may go pro even more so than they already do today. Half of my wrestling and football team were on roids in high school.
I've also experienced slight growth problems due to HGH abuse (Roid Belly,Ect,Ect) which sucks. And yeah the media/magizines all suck. It's horrible for teenagers because they see this stuff and they feel like they NEED that. A lot of kids at my highschool back then were using drugs as well for sports... Mainly DBol only cycles which is dumb. I admit I was taking Testosterone shots at the age of 16.. And was bigger than all the other guys but I would never ever ever tell people that I was on them because that ruins my chances of ever receiving sponsorship. Most the kids were getting Gynecomastia because they didn't know how to control estro and such. I'm just saying people should leave these kinds of things to Athletes/Doctors before making swift judgement. You can reap the benefits of certain drugs if you have your Diet/Exercise/Sleeping down.
OH and sorry if it seemed like I was trying to argue with you, I'm just venting because of people in this thread sadly.
Sadly I wouldn't be where I am today if I didn't start at a young age...*
I mostly get pissed at guys who go to steroid users at the gym to ask for advise and the steroid users (who know NOTHING about lifting) tell them how to exercise. So many people get injured as a consequence of bad advice from supposedly fit people.
While I think steroids should be legal for the general population, I do agree with you that steroids should not be allowed in competitive athletics. Parents already put wayyy too much emphasis on athletics for kids. Allowing them to poison their kid's bodies with steroids for a competitive advantage is just wrong.