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    The NRA strikes again

    (apologies if this is posted already, or elsewhere)

    NRA releases free target-practice app - for ages 4 and up

    http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/...151235393.html

    From Yahoo news:

    The National Rifle Association, exactly a month after the shooting at Newtown, Conn., appears to have released a branded target shooting gamedeemed suitable for kids ages 4 and up.
    The NRA has been highly critical of the video game industry following the elementary school shooting in Newtown that left 26 dead and sparked a national debate about guns and school safety.
    "NRA: Practice Range," available free in the iTunes app store, allows players to shoot at coffin-shaped targets in indoor or outdoor settings. For $.99 extra, players can upgrade their gun to a pistol grip Mossberg or a semi-automatic sniper rifle.
    The game says it is a licensed product of the NRA, but the gun lobby did not return multiple requests for comment from Yahoo News asking to confirm that the game is indeed theirs.
    According to the description on iTunes, the game is intended to instill "safe and responsible ownership through fun challenges and realistic simulations." And because it contains "no objectionable material," per iTunes' rating system, it's suitable for children as young as 4. Apple employees vet applications before they are included in the store and approve age ranges for games.
    In between shooting, the game also dispenses gun safety advice, like to wear protective eye gear.
    The NRA, the nation's largest gun lobby, has met with the White House as the president mulls implementing more comprehensive background checks for gun buyers and the banning of certain kinds of semi-automatic rifles, among other proposals.
    The game's timing has sparked some backlash. The New York Daily News, for one, writes in its cover story Tuesday morning that the game "spits on the graves" of Newtown victims. Neither the NRA, nor the app's developer, returned a request for comment.

    Thoughts?

    My take - To be fair, there doesn't appear to be any human "targets," and it is trying to advocate gun safety... but on the heals of the NRA blatantly pointing the finger at the VG industry this smells like hypocrisy at its worse.
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    I hope they're aware of the irony, but I doubt it.

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    I don't see anything wrong with this. The NRA is a bussiness, they try to make money.
    And if they can also influence politics in the proces, then thats just the cherry on the pie
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    I don't see how this is inconstistent at all. NRA isn't officially against video games, just against violent ones.
    So they decided to develop a non-violent alternative for kids who want to shoot in video games.

    I don't think it'll be successful, and I don't agree with the NRA's stance on video game violence, but why not develop this? If I had really young kids, I wouldn't want them exposed to normal FPS games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diurdi View Post
    I don't see how this is inconstistent at all. NRA isn't officially against video games, just against violent ones.
    So they decided to develop a non-violent alternative for kids who want to shoot in video games.
    They think violent video games are training simulators to turn kids into killers. So, what do they do? Put out an app that teaches you how to aim a gun.

    You really don't see the irony?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JfmC View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with this. The NRA is a bussiness, they try to make money.
    At some point a bad excuse is just a bad excuse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikaru View Post
    They think violent video games are training simulators to turn kids into killers. So, what do they do? Put out an app that teaches you how to aim a gun.

    You really don't see the irony?
    No, not really... the NRA is for people having guns, so a game that teaches people how to use guns is perfectly in line. What they don't like are games that have you killing people, so they made a game that you don't kill people in, and to teach weapons safety to reduce the chance of an accident using a real gun for sporting.

    I don't agree with their stance on games but from their point of view it makes sense.
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    To be honest, it is more of an educational game, than a violent one. Sure, it has guns, but there is nothing wrong with guns when they are being used properly, and for the legal intended reasons. (Target shooting, hunting, protection, to name a few).

    I would recommend reading this article: (It actually seems unbiased towards either side.)
    http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...ster-it-seems/

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    Quote Originally Posted by semaphore View Post
    At some point a bad excuse is just a bad excuse.
    (I was kinda ironic, because I don't really know if the NRA even is classified as a bussines, a political party, or a non-profit (lol) organisation)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tikaru View Post
    They think violent video games are training simulators to turn kids into killers. So, what do they do? Put out an app that teaches you how to aim a gun.

    You really don't see the irony?
    There's no irony. Self defense is a natural right- but shooting guns isn't even violent if something living isn't at the end of the gun.

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    goobernoob summed it up pretty good, I also don't agree with the NRA on video games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JfmC View Post
    I don't see anything wrong with this. The NRA is a bussiness, they try to make money.
    And if they can also influence politics in the proces, then thats just the cherry on the pie
    Ermmmm...NOOO!

    The NRA is not a buisness. The NRA is a 501(c) Non Profit Tax Exempt Organization.

    Altought as everyone and their uncle knows that today they are in reality the Political face and lobby arm of the weapons industry in the United States.

    You know having Smith and Wesson, Glock or Colt promoting guns for all your security and entertainment needs for you and your family would seem rather self serving. So it's nice to have an independent organization recieveing fuckton of Tax exempt "Donations" to promote "responsable" gun ownership and funnel millions into the campaings of congressmen and senators to "defend" your 2nd ammendment right to Assault Rifles. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*
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    Yeah this doesn't really bother me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mihalik View Post
    Ermmmm...NOOO!

    The NRA is not a buisness. The NRA is a 501(c) Non Profit Tax Exempt Organization.

    Altought as everyone and their uncle knows that today they are in reality the Political face and lobby arm of the weapons industry in the United States.

    You know having Smith and Wesson, Glock or Colt promoting guns for all your security and entertainment needs for you and your family would seem rather self serving. So it's nice to have an independent organization recieveing fuckton of Tax exempt "Donations" to promote "responsable" gun ownership and funnel millions into the campaings of congressmen and senators to "defend" your 2nd ammendment right to Assault Rifles. *wink, wink, nudge, nudge*
    Quote Originally Posted by JfmC View Post
    (I was kinda ironic, because I don't really know if the NRA even is classified as a bussines, a political party, or a non-profit (lol) organisation)
    I should have know... Its what billionares do (apart from becoming superhero's)
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    Don't see where the 4 and up number is coming from. That link says 12 and up. And who cares anyway.

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    "Video games are bad and teach our kids violence!"

    *makes video game to teach kids about violence*

    Oh yes, that makes sense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerraw View Post
    "Video games are bad and teach our kids violence!"

    *makes video game to teach kids about violence*

    Oh yes, that makes sense.
    Except it's not a video game to teach kids about violence, there isn't anything violent in it. It's an educational video game teaching someone how to use a gun.

    See: http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...ster-it-seems/

    For better review of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Verain View Post
    There's no irony. Self defense is a natural right- but shooting guns isn't even violent if something living isn't at the end of the gun.
    The issue with that is the NRA took a stand against violent video games.

    There's nothing living at the end of my gun in GTA or Call of Duty, either, just pixels on a screen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The issue with that is the NRA took a stand against violent video games.

    There's nothing living at the end of my gun in GTA or Call of Duty, either, just pixels on a screen.
    Right, but in this game there are no living or approximations of living targets. I fail to see how a game, which is instructional in the proper usage of a gun, that shoots at non-human like targets to shoot at, is violent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    The issue with that is the NRA took a stand against violent video games.

    There's nothing living at the end of my gun in GTA or Call of Duty, either, just pixels on a screen.
    Funny fact, with hunting their is a living thing at the other end of the gun, GTA and Call of Duty are less violent then hunting
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