The Serpent’s Accord: A Mistweaver PvE Guide [5.4]

[Oka555]

I have 2 questions
One is what do most MW do to get the most regen out the legendary when it procs?
Also I manually reforge to reach 2nd cap haste I feel like I may be wasting stats by doing it manually is there a good guide to using reforge lite?
I raid 10m

[Krazyito]

I have 2 questions
One is what do most MW do to get the most regen out the legendary when it procs?
Also I manually reforge to reach 2nd cap haste I feel like I may be wasting stats by doing it manually is there a good guide to using reforge lite?
I raid 10m

For the legendary, Just try to be in melee range and much as possible, and then do Jab->TP->Jab->TP for free mana.

For reforgelite



Use these Stats in Reforgelite (WHILE IN TIGER STANCE) for proper reforging. You can move around the stats to fit your playstyle.

When you hit "calculate" CHECK that your haste will indeed reach 3145. Reforgelite has been buggy for me lately, and I have to go into "Advanced mode" to fix it. If this happens, make sure you set the haste cap to "At least" and then hit calculate, and it should work.

When you get 2 piece t15 (even if its shoulders and head or w/e, get it ASAP) change that haste cap to 6141. If you feel that you have the gear but not the 2pc, you can change to 6141.

[luney]

I still do not really understand why ppl want to use Jab, TP, Jab, TP when your legendary meta procs. I mean, I understand it's a free mana boost, but do we really need mana?

For me, when legendary meta procs, I just cast Soothing Mist on the lowest raid member and spam Surging Mists unit I get max chi. It's a free chi boost to spam even more Uplifts. If you are in melee range you can ofc just spam Jabs, but w/o using TP.

Also you can use it for SCK in some situations.

[Krazyito]

I still do not really understand why ppl want to use Jab, TP, Jab, TP when your legendary meta procs. I mean, I understand it's a free mana boost, but do we really need mana?

For me, when legendary meta procs, I just cast Soothing Mist on the lowest raid member and spam Surging Mists unit I get max chi. It's a free chi boost to spam even more Uplifts. If you are in melee range you can ofc just spam Jabs, but w/o using TP.

Also you can use it for SCK in some situations.

thats a question someone who didn't need mana would say, and would come to the eventual conclusion anyway.

If you feel you don't need the mana, then sure, going for free chi for throughput is perfectly viable.

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If anyone cares this is a WA I use to track the amount of effective healing Uplift will do (it basically tracks the health deficit of all targets affected by your OWN Renewing Mist and adds it together):

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If anyone cares this is a WA I use to track the amount of effective healing Uplift will do (it basically tracks the health deficit of all targets affected by your OWN Renewing Mist and adds it together):

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Doesn't this take an insane amount of memory to operate? You also seem to have used an arbitrary value for uplift, which is alright for estimating but you'd really need to set a value using spellpower and whatnot. Use x = GetSpellBonusHealing(); , then use the formula for uplift's value: 7794+0.68x. If you want to bring that even further you could add crit onto it.

[Krazyito]

Doesn't this take an insane amount of memory to operate?

I'll test it out and report back

[Deleted]

It doesn't use that much memory.

I'll edit the bits you told me too Reglitch, I do think it's a good WA to have because when you see 300-400k and you Uplift, knowing that -most- of it was effective is a super-fuzzy-feeling.

[Krazyito]

It does take some extra memory, But i did not see a huge performance decrease in LFR Lei Shen

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Just an aside, the value of 31xxx~ that I used was my T14 500~ ilvl value healing of Uplift, I just took a random snapshot from World of Logs to see the average heal of Uplift. That average now is 42xxx~ so I should've changed it, but didn't. Guess I slacked on that. XD

[Deleted]

I've also been using an aura to estimate my uplift (and show what my last uplift healed for), it also calculates the healing based on spellpower (and ignores overhealing ofc):

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It includes SWS modifier (1.2) but excludes crit (on purpose, since I want to know what healing I can expect at least)

[Krazyito]

Any way you could integrate commas? Would make it easier to read

---------- Post added 2013-04-27 at 01:32 PM ----------

local value=totalhealthlost
    if(value > 999999) then value = math.floor(value/1000000) .. "m" end
    if(value > 999) then value = math.floor(value/1000) .. "k" end
    return value

I used that to shorten the word. Looks nicer to me

---------- Post added 2013-04-27 at 01:38 PM ----------

I've also been using an aura to estimate my uplift (and show what my last uplift healed for), it also calculates the healing based on spellpower (and ignores overhealing ofc):

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It includes SWS modifier (1.2) but excludes crit (on purpose, since I want to know what healing I can expect at least)

why does this show 2 numbers?

[Deleted]

why does this show 2 numbers?

As I said (you even quoted it): "using an aura to estimate my uplift (and show what my last uplift healed for)"

[Chilbot]

Hey what's up guys. I love this guide it helped me so much starting out and stuff. I am a point where I need some help which way to gem and reforge. I know that some people have said intel is better than spirit as long as you have a good regen. Just wondering where it is at with this tier.

Here is my character http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...l/Youbi/simple

wow-heros - http://www.wow-heroes.com/character/...0Cartel/youbi/


Thanks

[babele]

im really at a loss why you would want a weakaura to track that kind of information? tracking renewing mist and its timer i think is all you really need to do, if you time your thunder focus tea properly enough the max healing will be done.

[Deleted]

I've also been using an aura to estimate my uplift (and show what my last uplift healed for), it also calculates the healing based on spellpower (and ignores overhealing ofc):

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It includes SWS modifier (1.2) but excludes crit (on purpose, since I want to know what healing I can expect at least)

Wow, this is pretty useful

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Hey what's up guys. I love this guide it helped me so much starting out and stuff. I am a point where I need some help which way to gem and reforge. I know that some people have said intel is better than spirit as long as you have a good regen. Just wondering where it is at with this tier.

Here is my character http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...l/Youbi/simple

wow-heros - http://www.wow-heroes.com/character/...0Cartel/youbi/


Thanks

Hey Boomy, I'm almost at the same iLevel as you, however our stat priorities differ somewhat.
http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Sasina/simple
That's my armory, as you can see there's a 3,500 spirit difference in our gear, and I use int flask/food as well. Granted I have stronger mana regen trinkets than you so that should account for something.
Point being no one can really tell you how much spirit you need as it all comes down to you as a player, how effective your healing is, if you have to constantly soothing mists etc.
Point being, many things come in play here, However remember you sacrifice throughput for mana regen, and every single mana point you have left after a fight is wasted, so try experimenting with it and see where you feel comfortable!

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Point being no one can really tell you how much spirit you need as it all comes down to you as a player, how effective your healing is, if you have to constantly soothing mists etc.

8000 is a maximum, any more than that is bad play

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Reglitch, what are your thoughts on going for the 9158 haste breakpoint? I've been steadily lowering my Spirit since I got the meta gem (don't want to overshoot it in the middle of progression and find out I run out of mana on a kill attempt :|), and as we've been over a thousand times my only reason for discounting haste over crit was the mana difference. If mana is a non-issue, and I want to drop 3k Spirit, would it not make sense to just go for it?

Edit: Just realized that this is not possible with my current gear distribution (way too much Spirit/Haste and Crit/haste gear), but suppose it was, the question remains the same.

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It's definitely hard to reach the 9158 (I thought it was 9145?) without the "right" gear. When I actually get around to getting upgrades I might try going for it. I know Apku in Method has gone for it but I haven't spoken to him yet about how he feels it's working out. Affiniti hasn't gone for it yet, but he thinks it's well worth it: I certainly do not want to be a in a position where I'm giving up Pandaren's Step or forced to gem 320 haste gems though.