1. #741
    So I just got my T15 4pc today but I also got 522 legs.

    My 522 legs would replace a 502 tier piece.. is it worth trading out the tier piece for those 522 legs? I looked at AMR and it was saying the 522 is better but I wasn't so sure about that.

    What is your guys' opinion on that?

  2. #742
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    Can you link a) your armoury and b) the two options of legs (old/new)

  3. #743
    i need help guys. i think have decent gear but i always have about 45 to 65 k hps. keeping ReM on CD always TfT uplift whole group but still low hps. pls help me. what am i doing wrong. cant post armory but iam playing on eu

  4. #744
    Quote Originally Posted by Xhoosenone View Post
    i need help guys. i think have decent gear but i always have about 45 to 65 k hps. keeping ReM on CD always TfT uplift whole group but still low hps. pls help me. what am i doing wrong. cant post armory but iam playing on eu
    HPS is all relative to the damage taken. This is best shown on the Primordius encounter. If you get "lucky" with the evolutions you can end up having all the healers doing sub 100k hps, however if the evolutions go "in favour" of the encounter you can end up with all healers pulling above 100k hps. I always find the "my hps is low help me" statements to be rather silly in that regard. Think of it like this:

    Group A takes 200k raid DPS (inc. tank damage)
    Group B takes 400k raid DPS (inc. tank damage)

    Split across 5 healers group A's healers will be averaging 40k hps each (if they are all even). Group B's healers will be averaging 80k hps though. Does this make group B's healers better than group A's healers? No, it means group B fails a lot and their healers carry stupidity. Don't worry about HPS, focus on your position on the meters relative to the encounter. Horridon, for exampe, do not expect to be top. Expect to be lower than Paladins/Priests.

  5. #745
    @jpiroq: 4-piece ist not the much of an hps-upgrade. generally just gives a little more room, if you fail to use tft right on time (tortos stomp, lei shen thunderstruck, etc).
    I'd go with the higher itemlvl, unless you might lose the second haste plateau

    @xhoosenone: 10man/25man? 45 to 65k hps is not that bad, depending on the fight. We/I might need more information to improve your hps. Generally you should use TFT before big raid damage happens, so there are many ReM on the raid.

  6. #746
    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor View Post
    Can you link a) your armoury and b) the two options of legs (old/new)
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=95902 - This gives me the 4PC T15 set

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=94946 - These are the off tier piece

    ---------- Post added 2013-05-06 at 07:45 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Natu View Post
    @jpiroq: 4-piece ist not the much of an hps-upgrade. generally just gives a little more room, if you fail to use tft right on time (tortos stomp, lei shen thunderstruck, etc).
    I'd go with the higher itemlvl, unless you might lose the second haste plateau
    And that's what I've been reading, but I still wasn't sure. So I definitely wanted to get your guys' opinion on it, still being new.

  7. #747
    Quote Originally Posted by Treseme View Post
    Think of it like this:

    Group A takes 200k raid DPS (inc. tank damage)
    Group B takes 400k raid DPS (inc. tank damage)

    Split across 5 healers group A's healers will be averaging 40k hps each (if they are all even). Group B's healers will be averaging 80k hps though. Does this make group B's healers better than group A's healers? No, it means group B fails a lot and their healers carry stupidity.
    This needs to be burned into the mind of every single healer, ever.

  8. #748
    Quote Originally Posted by jpirog View Post
    http://www.wowhead.com/item=95902 - This gives me the 4PC T15 set

    http://www.wowhead.com/item=94946 - These are the off tier piece

    ---------- Post added 2013-05-06 at 07:45 AM ----------



    And that's what I've been reading, but I still wasn't sure. So I definitely wanted to get your guys' opinion on it, still being new.
    Forgot to add my armory:

    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Jmako/advanced

  9. #749
    thank you very muh for explanation. iam in 10m and we have paly and disc priest as healers. iam always 3rd or 2nd. but now i know iam not doing bad when have hps like that. again. Thank you

  10. #750
    Quote Originally Posted by Xhoosenone View Post
    thank you very muh for explanation. iam in 10m and we have paly and disc priest as healers. iam always 3rd or 2nd. but now i know iam not doing bad when have hps like that. again. Thank you
    Same setup as me, it's a tough battle against those two types of healers. Like the rest of the posts, don't worry about HPS, as long as the raid is all alive and healing is good, what do you need to worry about?

    The times I see I'm on top is when there is a consistent amount of incoming damage and we're relatively spread. Our ReM, TfT, and uplifts are insane when those things happen.

  11. #751
    idd. when those things happen monk fit perfectly for it. Btw is better reforge spirit to other stats when i dont have legendary meta socker ? or i should reforge it after obtain it ?

  12. #752
    Spirit is a bad stat for us past a certain point, if you're playing correctly and as well as you should a significant portion of your time should be spent casting spells with no inherent mana cost. People have been playing with as little as 8000 spirit even without the LMG/HLG for a very long time now, some of us even in 5.0. That's why I always advocate it to people without both.
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  13. #753
    Can you please check my armory reglitch. and give me some tip advice . i would be very glad. cant post link but name is Xhoosenone playing on eu Drak´Thul guild name Wayward. thank you

  14. #754
    Too much spirit, you have the second breakpoint so shift it into int and crit if you can, every gem should be hybrid intellect. Replace the Inscribed bag with the valor trinket and you have a very decent regen set of trinkets. Run your character through reforgelite (the website, google it) to get an optimzed reforge for the 6141 breakpoint of haste.
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  15. #755
    i did couple changes so hope now its good. reply if its ok or not. really want to be good as you

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    Reglitch, could you please point out flaws in my build? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ransu/advanced

    Would be wonderful if you did. Also, is there a reason you haven't gone for the 4/5 tier bonus or it just didn't happen?

    Thanks in advance.
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    hm, I googled reforgelite the website...but didn't found it ...can someone send the link per pm to me? thanks

  18. #758
    Quote Originally Posted by Well View Post
    Reglitch, could you please point out flaws in my build? http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ransu/advanced

    Would be wonderful if you did. Also, is there a reason you haven't gone for the 4/5 tier bonus or it just didn't happen?

    Thanks in advance.
    Too. Much. Mastery.

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    Hmm recently i been runing wiht 5.5k spirit. Tho i have the hc spirit of the sun (upgraded 2/2) and hc horridon trinket so my mana regen is pretty good

  20. #760
    Quote Originally Posted by Treseme View Post
    Too. Much. Mastery.
    Could you give mine a look over?
    http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Jmako/advanced

    I also wanted to add, I THINK I can get to the next haste point if I gem a few haste gems in there, would it be worth doing?
    Last edited by jpirog; 2013-05-07 at 04:45 PM.

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