I have no clue why a "license" would be needed, parenting responsibly is boiled down to the following easy steps;
- Don't give them crap to eat
Really, thats all you need.
Yes, parenting should require both a license and mandatory parenting courses.
Yes, parenting courses only.
Yes, license only.
No to either.
No, I wouldn't make a license required.
And I wouldn't support a mandatory course, maybe just recommend one.
Seeing as my best friend just got preggers with her BF of a year, I would absolutely recommend a course for them, as I would for all couples expecting that are un-married or newly-weds. I would probably still recommend it for couples who have been married for years, because even they have no idea what to expect with a newborn.
You can't regulate something completely natural. Nobody needs to drive a car, nobody needs to drink alcohol, people need to have sex, we wouldn't be here without it.
They make you take classes to be a foster parent. My parents who raised 5 kids, all of whom ended up going to college and graduating, signed up to be foster parents after we all were gone.
The class was led by a 22 year old social science major. They had to sit and watch a 30 year old movie about how to care for a child. The the 22 year old quizzed them on how to act in situations. They had to take 30 HOURS of that BS listening to a kid tell them how to be parents, when he had no clue himself.
The people this would help are the same people who would not go to the classes. Waste of time and tax payer money.
If people are actually concerned about such matters a place to start is the educational system. Schools can teach kids more than Maths, English and Science. You can't police who has the right to be a parent or not, it's too difficult and a basic human right.
I just have to say, the 81 people that said yes makes me sad. This another freedom that would be losing. Really I cannot comprehend WHY this was needed. This just sounds like something someone would say because they are tired of *idiots* roaming the world. THAT WILL ALWAYS happen no matter what the government or society does.
We shouldn't be trying to control that. We should accept it happens and try to change and prevent such things.
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You know what I just realized? In the old days, high school used to have home ed. classes. Now, that's one way to improve the real life education! Unfortunately, too many cool classes are cancelled due to "budget." We could use more of real life experience classes like that. Marriage classes, for example, then many people would really more knowledge and prepare to expect the unexpected. I missed the old wood/metal shop classes.
I've already posted my opinion in the earlier pages that I don't agree the idea of requiring a license in order to become parents. I'm just saying that courses in high school, such as home ed would have played a lot of vital role for students. If your school still have classes like those then you're in luck. I've found out my old high school have closed down many of vital real life experience classes due to "budget," (such as cutting fund to art and gym class. Closed down wood, metal, drafting, home ed, etc...) They opted to have math, science, history, and english classes more "important" than other real life classes. In other words, they see textbook > hand on experience classes. People learn more faster if it's hand on experiences than through textbooks.
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You can toss around insults all you like, but it doesn't stop it from being true. Raising a child does take sacrifice but in the end it's still creating life for your own satisfaction. If you weren't going to get anything out of it you wouldn't do it. That's how most relationships work, but the difference is you're bringing new life into the world which doesn't have any say in the matter. You hope it'll be happy, but what if it's not?This statement illustrates such an utter incompetence on this subject its unbelievable. Having children is one of the most unselfish acts one can do. You give up your time, money, sleep, etc, all for someone else. Having a son may add value to my life, but it adds value through the incredible sacrifice that is required to raise them to be an upstanding person. Adopting children is also very unselfish, and as I stated earlier, I have great respect for people who decide to adopt.
There's no doubt a lifetime of suffering has led me to want to make others aware of the darker side of life, but most people just pretend that when they have a baby it's going to be all sunshine and rainbows. Many people have kids when they aren't ready for them, or they pass down screwy biochemistry that makes the child suffer to the day they die. I don't personally believe it's yours or anyone else's right to procreate no matter what. There are some people that simply shouldn't procreate because of the disadvantages certain parents may pass down. Am I going to stop others? Am I going to advocate for laws trying to stop them? No, of course not, but I'm going to advocate for adoption instead. There are children already here that need families and I think it's selfish to ignore them.
In any case the sacrifice of raising a child is the same no matter where you get it from. I'd argue adopting is an even greater sacrifice, but the amount of sacrifice to raise a child wasn't a point I was ever debating.
Being a "good parent" has nothing to do with how you came upon your children. You can have biological children and still be an awful parent and you can also adopt while still being awful. I never suggested otherwise. I think it's perfectly fine to both adopt and have biological. I simply think people need to slow down and realize that outside of their bubble people are suffering. The time and energy spent raising a child is totally irrelevant to this conversation. I never suggested it didn't take time and energy. It's not unreasonable to advocate for adoption at all.You're advocating "good parents" forgo having kids of their own to adopt someone else's children. The punishment is not in asking people to care for a "desperate human child," but in saying they should not have kids of their own. As you said earlier, "I'd like people to stop pumping out babies while we still have world-wide orphan problems." You're more than welcome to adopt children, but to tell other people to do it is unreasonable, especially if one understands the time and energy that is spent raising children.
No, but I think that they should have a class in school related to parenting and other social things. Would be great if more people learned how to deal with others in a more intelligent way.