First time parents should take parenting classes.
Many parents dont even know how to childproof their house.
A license as a result of that course is not out of the question.
First time parents should take parenting classes.
Many parents dont even know how to childproof their house.
A license as a result of that course is not out of the question.
While it sounds good on paper, it literally puts the government in your babies crib, and that's something I don't think anyone can get behind.
I do not think school sex education works as much as we wanted. Lets be realistic. Sexual Education have been going on more quite a number of years (even discounting the southern population, where you can argue sexual education is not being done right and only include the Northern States), but teenage pregnancy has not gone down (people have less kids because of abortion but pregnancy itself have not gone down) consistantly. I think we would be more successful targeting poverty (what are men going to do all day when there is no work but fuck).
The actual question is "why drinking, flying and driving requires age and license if they are less harmful that parenting?". Excessive control is the problem, parenting is fine.Bad parenting is arguably more dangerous than drinking, flying a plane or driving a car, yet all three have an age requirement and 2 out of 3 require licensure. Why not parenting?
Because parenting is considerably easier than flying a plane. Billions of people raise their kids up just fine, but if airplanes were flown by unlicensed amateurs, they'd come crashing down more often than make a clean landing. Letting anyone up in the sky would absolutely be more dangerous. Same applies to cars to a lesser extent - the statistics I managed to dig up estimate 37k deaths in car accidents annually in the US alone, despite practically everyone having a license. I can only imagine the disaster if we didn't require any kind of training before you sit behind a wheel.
To elaborate more since aviation is so heavily regulated it's there is almost no subjectivity involved. What makes a good pilot is easily quantifiable, where as parenting lacks that objectivity. Now we go full circle back to the question...what makes a bad parent? And for whoever answers that questions, what makes your subjective opinion better than mine?
Get a grip man! It's CHEESE!
OR - No child benefits unless you get the liscence. Then the unemployed drugged up whore mothers who have 7 children that run around bullying over peoples children will stop having children or will die off. Thus Survival of the fittest. Obviously this isnt a good idea in practise for obvious reasons. BUT SOMETHING ALONG THESE LINES WOULD ACTUALLY WORK.
Parent licenses is something I will never support. While there are bad parents out there, it's possible and much less expensive to remove children from the household than to give out licenses to people to have children. In addition, it would quickly come down to who is and isn't allowed to have intercourse. Reproducing is a basic human right, and that can never and should never be infringed upon.
I do, however, support parenting classes for any person/couple who discovers they are having a child. It doesn't have to be mandatory, but strongly encouraged. Parenting classes are beneficial to everyone who is about to have a child.
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Again, I said no to both, but this is the type of things that need some regulation. Depriving people of having kids isn't the answer, but more accountability is.
There are a lot of bad/crappy parents out there and im not gonna pretend i have a better solution for changing that but I don't think how to be a good parent is something you can just teach.
I think a parenting course should be offered for free to parents but I certainly don't think it should be mandatory to get a license to parent.
"Death is not kind. It's dark, black as far as you can see, and you're all alone."
What's wrong with the scenario as underlined? Also you assume that unplanned parents would completely fail at a parenting course or couldn't get licensure. The stipulations on licensure could be either very narrow (legal pregnancy is limited to those of a certain socioeconomic status, etc) or very wide. The former would probably not be a likely scenario in the near future until we are dealing with real issues of population balance.
Some people have mentioned scenarios where women have a massive amount of children and go on welfare...countries limit the amount of children one can have already, while I am not against the idea per se of limiting the amount of children a woman can have (particularly if she is on public aid) that is beyond the scope of what I was trying to address with this thread, although I find the feedback about the issue interesting.
Yeah lets just give up all our freedoms because some people can't parent their kids. Sounds like a great idea.
While we are at it, we should have mandatory classes and licenses for all possibly harmful substances like alcohol and cigarettes and cleaning chemicals, etc.
Why would anyone want the government telling them when they can or can't have children?
when all else fails, read the STICKIES.
Hell no. I don't want to live in a nanny state where there's a license for every goddamned thing.
"hello sir, what'll you have?"
"A salad please"
"Okay, could I just see your salad permit?"
"My what?"
"Well we just need to be sure that you took the 6 week salad course. We can't very well have some sort of salad initiate ordering willy nilly without knowing what they're getting!"
"I'm going to go to another restaurant"
Last edited by Lemons; 2013-01-19 at 03:58 AM.
How many nice persons had shity parents ? You can't know what children will become by selecting parents, that's just not how it works.
And outside this basic statement, children is an economical need for every single country in the world. Children are the futur workforce of a country, increase in children is needed for an economic growth. State birth control will lead to a drastic decay in natality, bringing any country to poverty (and don't talk about china where every inland factories are populated by poor farmers kidS sustaining their industrial competitivity).
P.S. : sry for crappy english.