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    Heroic Grand Empress Shek'zeer help ?

    Hello,

    Today we might be progressing hc Empress (25), but can't really find any good tactic/guide or anything like that.
    Any1 here that might be able to help ?
    Kinda wanna know, how many healers to bring ? How many tanks ( 3 maybe for the add phase)?
    What to look out for / spend special attention on somthing ?
    The new hc mechanic, how does it work ?
    Thanks for helping!

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    For the add phase we have 1 tank on the two Reavers and then 2 other tanks splitting the Windblades. We have a Boomkin Druid taunt with a CD or 2 (Life Cocoon + PS etc) and get the Poison-Drenched Armour too. Allows for more DPS. We have 4 marks in a square. The Reaver tank tanks his adds at the centre bottom of Empress' stairs. The ranged group then stack on 1 mark to the left and stack up a Amber Trap. The ranged group then move to the right and stack up in order to make an Amber Trap there. When both traps are made, and every add is near death (<5% life) the Reavers are trapped together. For Fixates, if ranged are on the left side they run to the left side stairs. If ranged are on the right side they run to the right side stairs. Melee always run to the right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manamontana View Post
    For the add phase we have 1 tank on the two Reavers and then 2 other tanks splitting the Windblades. We have a Boomkin Druid taunt with a CD or 2 (Life Cocoon + PS etc) and get the Poison-Drenched Armour too. Allows for more DPS. We have 4 marks in a square. The Reaver tank tanks his adds at the centre bottom of Empress' stairs. The ranged group then stack on 1 mark to the left and stack up a Amber Trap. The ranged group then move to the right and stack up in order to make an Amber Trap there. When both traps are made, and every add is near death (<5% life) the Reavers are trapped together. For Fixates, if ranged are on the left side they run to the left side stairs. If ranged are on the right side they run to the right side stairs. Melee always run to the right.
    Thanks, very helpfull.
    How many healers are you rolling with then ? With the current gear ( we have 7 good geared healers)
    And the new "hc" ability, anything special or just heal more ?

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    The new HC ability can just be soaked by a tank. It's similar to HC Vizier's beam (a tank just runs between it and soaks it).

    We use 8 healers. For the last phase we use 8 dispells in total: 8 Tremor Totems and 2 Revivals, if everyone is a human who gets Visions of Demise we just have them PvP trinket the fear. Otherwise it goes: tremor 1 > tremor 2 > tremor 3 > tremor 1 (with talent CD) > tremor 2 > tremor 3 > tremor 2 (with talent CD) > tremor 3 (with talent CD). If we have a Mistweaver we'll use Revival after the 8th dispell, or prior if a Shaman has died and cannot be ressed.

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    Thanks for the help !
    Will get back here after tonight, might ask for more help if needed.

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-18 at 01:34 AM ----------

    So, I said I would come back after this evenings raid,
    These are the questions I have:
    Do you wait with the cry of terror debuff to go into the dissonance field until you know what field is the corrupted one ?
    Do you let raid members closes tto the corrupted field stack in it also to make ik blow up faster ?
    What kind of cd's do you use to let it explode ? ( we always have some random deaths, 3-4 ppls) What is optimal ? switching between raid cd's and personal cd's or ?

    We managed to get to phase 2 few times but to much deaths from p1 so can't really continue that way and eventually died.

    Ofcourse this was without 2 much preparation. (we where aiming for our first amber shaper 25hc kill wich we had after 5 tries.)
    SO empress was kinda a try on the difficulty lvl and see what we R up against for the raid on sunday.
    If you have any pointers for succesfull empress kill please let me know.
    Thanks.

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    "Do you wait with the cry of terror debuff to go into the dissonance field until you know what field is the corrupted one?"
    Yes. Make sure to PW:S this person.

    "Do you let raid members closes tto the corrupted field stack in it also to make ik blow up faster?"
    We use 1 Demo Warlock and give him a PW:S or something.

    "What kind of cd's do you use to let it explode ? ( we always have some random deaths, 3-4 ppls) What is optimal ? switching between raid cd's and personal cd's or?"
    We just use whatever's available. Spirit Shell is good, PW:S is good, Rallying Cry is good. Take a look at your raid CDs and rotate them.

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    BoPs are good for ppl to stay in the fields until they explode also. You should also remind your shamans that throwing down earthbound totem right after tremor reduces the CD (at least that's what our shamans were saying during progression) and they were able to get every other visions in p3

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    Thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it.
    Hope we can get some nice progress on sunday because of you !

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    The key to this fight is dealing with corrupted dissonance fields. Make sure whoever has the cry of terror debuff is not casting if the field is not corrupted, and is casting if the field is corrupted. Like someone above said, use someone with high mitigation (Demo Warlock works well because of Soul Link) and have them burn down the corrupted dissonance field by standing inside it. If you have the healers to do it, you should spirit shell these 2 people while they are in it, and bop the person with the debuff. We typically also use a Rallying cry before the explosion of the corrupted field as well to help minimize random deaths. Once you figure out how to stop the random deaths, the fight falls over.

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    Today we got her to 17% after the 1st real night of trying

    as xyronic said, if you can deal with the random deaths in p1 it will soon be a kill

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhjunxTwVls

    This vid from fallen is pretty much how we do it, we stack spiritshell on 10 ranged dps who go inside the corrupted one asap when it spawns to make it explode ( we use 3 discs for it: 2 discs on the 10 ppls " soaking" and other disc for the raid) we also use barrier on every corrupted dissonance field and a rallying cry.

    Hope this post helps a lot for 25 man guilds that R gonna try empress also.
    If you have any questions about it don't be afraid to ask.
    Thanks !
    Last edited by xenoxl; 2013-01-21 at 09:48 AM.

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