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    Quote Originally Posted by Nightelfsb View Post
    Who cares whoes the most trusted? Surely people haven't come to the point where they cant filter bullshit from real news?

    Also, love me some Jon Stewart, atleast his show can spike interest inn the youth.
    Actually most Americans believe the BS these days.

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    You only need to look a couple of pages back to see a perfect example of someone who swallows propaganda hook, line and sinker. Trusted and quality news sources are important, and becoming a rarity within the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foosha View Post

    YOU SECURE THAT SHIT HUDSON!


    BBC is still biased tho
    I was JUST having this discussion with my fiance. I figure it's harder for some of us to find out how BBC leans though. Sometimes it's easy, but other times... eh, I get lost in their politics at times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by theredviola View Post
    I was JUST having this discussion with my fiance. I figure it's harder for some of us to find out how BBC leans though. Sometimes it's easy, but other times... eh, I get lost in their politics at times.
    They lean towards sensationalism.

    They're tax-payer funded, so they want to make certain they get the Tax Payers a good story. That means over-embelishing everything to make it seem like their tax-dollars are giving them detailed news, when they're really not getting detailed news.

    This is why they seem to not "lean"... because they treat either side with the same level of exaggeration and embellishment for the purpose of giving an entertaining gripping story.
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    I prefer to just get my news online from various sources, there tends to be less spin and bias that way. You watch Fox, CNN, MSNBC, Daily Show, and Colbert for the horribly obvious bias and entertainment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhurn View Post
    Agreed, his bits are always great. See the one about investigative journalism at CNN? was depressing and hilarious at the same time.
    That was a really great piece, and it makes me sad that the people who attempt to bring us news have forgotten what journalism is about.
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    Stewart's segment titles are the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    They lean towards sensationalism.

    They're tax-payer funded, so they want to make certain they get the Tax Payers a good story. That means over-embelishing everything to make it seem like their tax-dollars are giving them detailed news, when they're really not getting detailed news.

    This is why they seem to not "lean"... because they treat either side with the same level of exaggeration and embellishment for the purpose of giving an entertaining gripping story.
    There's nothing sensationalist about BBC. Your babbling about "exaggerating both sides" makes no sense whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Regennis View Post
    O'Reilly has been on the Daily Show several times, and they even held a debate on internet stream. I'm pretty sure Stewart and O'Reilly are actually friends.
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    It's sad, I used to like watching Jon Stewart and Colbert, but I can't anymore. They have been sliding left more and more. They are by no means unbiased, and I would venture to say Jon Stewart is farther left than CNN and Colbert equal to CNN. Yea Stewart "sometimes" rips on liberals, but 1 out of 20 is not unbiased, it's an attempt to look unbiased. I also used to think that Colbert was supposed be be mocking O'reilly so you would think it would be hard core right to be funny, but its not even close.

    Anyway, I don't watch major news stations anymore because they are so biased and sensor out information that looks bad to their side. I try to find my news online from as unbiased sources as I can, which is difficult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeon8 View Post
    It's sad, I used to like watching Jon Stewart and Colbert, but I can't anymore. They have been sliding left more and more. They are by no means unbiased, and I would venture to say Jon Stewart is farther left than CNN and Colbert equal to CNN. Yea Stewart "sometimes" rips on liberals, but 1 out of 20 is not unbiased, it's an attempt to look unbiased. I also used to think that Colbert was supposed be be mocking O'reilly so you would think it would be hard core right to be funny, but its not even close.

    Anyway, I don't watch major news stations anymore because they are so biased and sensor out information that looks bad to their side. I try to find my news online from as unbiased sources as I can, which is difficult.
    I don't think anyone denies that Stewart leans left.

    That said, I think it's wrong to suggest Stewart's show has been sliding to the left, and more correct to say the right has been sliding towards the "easy to make fun of." As people come out saying things like women's bodies protect them from getting pregnant in cases of "legitimate rape," you can't really avoid making fun of that. And there have been more and more cases of such things coming from the right.

    When Anthony Weiner facebooked his weiner, Stewart also made fun of that. When Kerry cockblocked a bill to get aid to Sandy victims, Stewart made fun of that. It's not that Stewart is becoming more leftist (though he is a bit leftist), it's that the right is just so much funnier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foosha View Post
    They all have their biases. I can tell you FOR SURE that Jon Stewart is a flaming liberal, and his interviews and shows tend to go that way because
    A. It gives the widest audience range and
    B. Gives that audience range what it wants in terms of political comedy and news.

    I, on the the other hand think it's sad that today's youth is not educated or motivated enough to learn to filter the b.s from the actual news, and resort to satires/comedy shows with an obvious bias to get their news.
    I'd rather watch people saying the news trying to be funny then being funny for what they think, like normal news programs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    I don't think anyone denies that Stewart leans left.

    That said, I think it's wrong to suggest Stewart's show has been sliding to the left, and more correct to say the right has been sliding towards the "easy to make fun of." As people come out saying things like women's bodies protect them from getting pregnant in cases of "legitimate rape," you can't really avoid making fun of that. And there have been more and more cases of such things coming from the right.

    When Anthony Weiner facebooked his weiner, Stewart also made fun of that. When Kerry cockblocked a bill to get aid to Sandy victims, Stewart made fun of that. It's not that Stewart is becoming more leftist (though he is a bit leftist), it's that the right is just so much funnier.
    I think the real thing is currently, Republicans are the opposition, the minority. So the cameras are more focused on them as they try to gain attention and the kooky things they say get reported, misinterpreted and ridiculed.

    Despite his liberal bent, I bet Stewart will stll get his kicks the next time a Republican is in the White House and Democrats say increasingly dumb things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reeve View Post
    I don't think anyone denies that Stewart leans left.

    That said, I think it's wrong to suggest Stewart's show has been sliding to the left, and more correct to say the right has been sliding towards the "easy to make fun of." As people come out saying things like women's bodies protect them from getting pregnant in cases of "legitimate rape," you can't really avoid making fun of that. And there have been more and more cases of such things coming from the right.

    When Anthony Weiner facebooked his weiner, Stewart also made fun of that. When Kerry cockblocked a bill to get aid to Sandy victims, Stewart made fun of that. It's not that Stewart is becoming more leftist (though he is a bit leftist), it's that the right is just so much funnier.
    I deny Stewart leans left. He is to the right of me!

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    Has anyone seen John Stewart Debate? He completely destroys his opponent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shop Ebay View Post
    Has anyone seen John Stewart Debate? He completely destroys his opponent.
    He's smart, assertive, and quick on his toes. You kind of have to be if you want to be a semi-impromptu comedian. He has to come up with funny quips on the fly in his interviews nearly every night, so it makes sense that he'd be good at doing something similar in a debate format.
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    Every news channel is biased in some way or another. What I like about Colbert and Stewart is that you can tell when they are clearly being funny and when they are being serious. Regular news channels are funny because of how much bias they have, its a delicate difference=].
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dakia View Post
    With those two, you at least know that they are doing comedy at certain points and real news in others.

    The others . . . . . . not so much.
    It's not really as if they're making up news stories.. They get the stories, then make funny, ironic, comedian comments about said stories. They don't just make shit up as they go along.
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    Jon Steward and Steven Colbert have been the most objective for years. They aren't liberal, they just have a bias against stupid. When a democrat does something dumb they go after them too/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent View Post
    It's not really as if they're making up news stories.. They get the stories, then make funny, ironic, comedian comments about said stories. They don't just make shit up as they go along.
    Eh, most of the time they're making fun of the news as reported by other channels, but they do, in fact, do their own investigations sometimes, which is great. They're also really really good at pulling out historical clips to put what people are saying/doing into context, which the news networks are often not as good at doing.
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