This is a really good change, I shouldn't, but I think I will resub to test this out. I can both be a flag carrier and play as dps in 3v3, AND try out a different spec! (after a while tho). Only thing is that the elite weapons and armor become available at 27000 earned could perhaps be changed so that you can get the weapon in terms of power (even playing field), but leave the recolored gear as the carrot on the stick, maybe at 2k or 2k2.
That way no power difference but show-off level. OR maybe the tyrannical gear (in terms of looks, not power) could only be the elite gear? So you have the appearance of malevolent under 2k rating, but the same stats, but you can get the new gear look as a reward over 2k or someting. This way the people can show that they are of decent rating for all to see, just not stomp everyone because of stats. I personally do not care, I wish I could level up, have the same stats and own everyone, but that's just because I have so many things happening in my life that playing 13 weeks sounds really silly compared to the amount of things you can accomplish in real life in the same time period, but I guess if are good at managing everything in your life (which most young people playing games are NOT ) you would perhaps be able to play AND take care for moving your life forward at a good pace.
just my two cents, take care!
The catchup system doesn't actually "give" you points, you still need to play and win every single one of them, it just means that you actually can catch up, or you can swap mains mid season. This encourages players to try more stuff which leads to more pvp against different people which is always more fun.
If anything, the pvp will be more skill based, because your position on the ladder won't be determined by how you did in the very first week of arena, and no one will ever have a real reason to "sit" on a rating if they are currently not capped for points.
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Imo, these changes don't go far enough. I'd prefer a system like at the arena server. Equal gear for everyone, just competition. But it's pretty hard for the 2,2k RBG heroes to beat a non disadvantaged player. Equipped with full epic + T2 weapon aaaand backpaddeling at 1400 rating waiting for the blue equiped victims...
I would like this if they give the higher rateds a reason to get higher, more mounts titles battle pets and etc. Gold or bags would also be cool.
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Dumbass answer, the reward isnt the gear, the reward is winning and climbing in ranks while feeling you are making progress as a player.Originally Posted by Divineknight13
You're at #2109 realmpool and an average pvper? Try to achieve #1 of your realm... There're so many ways to set competitive goals, but to achieve gear to roflstomp others without gear should not be a goal.
But I agree with you concerning mounts or gold or whatever
Apparently it's not even about the high rated competition anymore. It's about getting as high as possible in order to get those sweet non combat pets, those mounts, that sweet shiny red gear! That awesome bling bling so people can look at you and say "Wow! Look at that guy" and then finally.... finally, you'll know you'll have worth!
PvP isn't even about fighting, come on, don't be a fool! It's about standing in Orgrimmar/Stormwind and letting all the peasants glance at the glorious, totally meaningful treasury you've accumulated. Then, they'll finally know you're a King among commoners.
weekly caps will still be higher for higher rated players, right?
either way, isn't your 'skill' supposed to be your advantage?
don't all true 'competitors', even in real life, want an even playing field?
what's the point in beating someone if you have a numbers advantage? then you can't know for sure if you're actually better than them, or if your gear decided the outcome.
You guys are ****ing ridiculous. Sometimes I wonder where Blizzard gets their absolutely stupid ideas for sometimes, but I actually think a primary source of influence is this site.
This is a great change. PvP gear should NOT reward better gear for skill, because it is competitive. Gear disparities very quickly outpace skill disparities and the game stalls and settles into fixed ratings based on gear from which it is almost impossible to escape, killing competition.
I have no problem with high-rated cosmetic rewards, but what we had was dumb. They already talked a lot about addressing this. In my opinion if they have it in place in time for 5.3 then there will be no problems from my part. The actual acquiring of gear for competition is perfect.
- A gladiator with ties to Doom Squad
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OT: change is good, now I maybe have a chance to get into decent RBG team. Oh wait, nvm, no one wants prot or ret paladins there anyway.
Lethora, 110 Protection Paladin, Shadowsong-EU
As has been said this is the best PvP change that has happened in the game since they introduced arena. All these people bitching about the change are the ones barely hitting 2.2k and thinking that makes them unique snowflakes. This works wonders for making PvP less about gear and more about skill, granted there's still the balance issues but that's a whole another topic.
You will STILL have a noticeable advantage in gearing if you start early and are actually good, but this change means it's no longer nigh impossible to catch up if you join in a little late. I think the people complaining about this are the same ones who think they should have better treatment just because they've played since vanilla.
WBMA - Leave our beards alone
the probleme is : actualy gear >>>>>>>>>>>skill
remember when u could beat rank one team with full blue gear back in tbc if you where better.? try to beat a fucking kfc or other stupid comp whit no gear when they are full r2, even if u are 1651616516 time moar skilled, you will fail and thats not fair
don't get me wrong, i hate EASY GEAR like it is in wow, but, whit this actual balance, this is the only way for arena to be a little bit competitive :x
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If its true that blizzard listen to feedback and let it determine how the game will be like. Then they better get rid of this awful change before 5.2 goes live
I love the changes. pvping for pvp, welcome change.