View Poll Results: Would you purchase a tome of panda land flying for 10k gold for each of your alts?

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  1. #41
    WB Jaylock.


    OT: I think that it would be seen as unfair. Regardless of how much gold any given person has, there are a lot of people out there that won't be able to afford it. I can almost hear the complaining already.

    Nice idea, wouldn't be "fair" and there would be too much complaining so I went with "No.".

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Televators View Post
    Hell no. Idiots playing the AH all day have already driven the prices of everything up so high, I can barely afford to play ANY toon, much less pay a retarded amount just to bypass some content. Who are these people running around with tens of thousands of gold all the time? These people might not have anything to do but play WoW literally all day and night, but those of us who'd like to see the sun occasionally have to pay ridiculous sums on gold sinks because a few thousand people have hit the gold cap.
    I play alts from time to time, and i play very casually now (because of work and social obligations), and i have hundreds of thousands of gold. Its not hard to acquire, in fact, by the time you hit 90, you can usually have 10k+ just by questing and selling your old green gear to vendors along the way, including posting random mats you find along the way on the AH.

    Gold is not hard to obtain, stop making it out like its hard to come by. Budget your gold use better.
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  3. #43
    10,000 gold for the ability to use a flying mount which I already paid for?

    Yeah, no.

  4. #44
    Yes, it would make leveling much faster and I don't like to handicap myself by not using available resources. 10k is nothing.

    It would also make leveling boring. I wish such tomes would never be added to game... and flying mounts removed completely.
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  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by razski View Post
    WB Jaylock.


    OT: I think that it would be seen as unfair. Regardless of how much gold any given person has, there are a lot of people out there that won't be able to afford it. I can almost hear the complaining already.

    Nice idea, wouldn't be "fair" and there would be too much complaining so I went with "No.".
    So you feel it wouldn't be fair then? doesnt matter what the masses think.

    Heres how it is currently:

    Level your character in panda land using a 100% speed ground mount.

    Heres how this idea works:

    You can either:

    1) Level your character in panda land using a flying mount for the cost of 10k gold.

    or

    2) Level your character in panda land using a 100% speed ground mount for free.

    Bam, blizzard just gave more options in game to level your character. This is adding to the game, and creating options, not penalizing anyone in ANY way. How is it not fair?
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    Since players are stupid, there would be players thinking they are being unfairly treated because they either are incompetent in earning gold or have too many alts.

    But no, Pandaria should be experienced without flying.

    Jaylock thread, so I won't expect anything, but even a braindead zombie would be able to know that allowing "rich" players to allow their alts to fly in pandaria from 85 would be a mistake.
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  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Mang View Post
    10,000 gold for the ability to use a flying mount which I already paid for?

    Yeah, no.
    Actually its a licence to fly in a certain location. And you paid for those licenses at each milestone: 60 to fly in kalimdor, eastern kingdoms and cataclysm zones, 70 to fly in northrend zones and buy 280 flight speed, and 80 if you wanted 310 flight speed.

    It would just be another OPTIONAL license to fly just like all the other optional licenses and speed boosts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MasterHamster View Post
    Since players are stupid, there would be players thinking they are being unfairly treated because they either are incompetent in earning gold or have too many alts.

    But no, Pandaria should be experienced without flying.
    The idea would be only after you have leveled one character to 90 by ground mount. It only unlocks the option of buying the tome once one character is level 90.

    Haven't we already experienced what panda land has to offer the first time we quested through it? If i want to buy a tome for 10k gold that enables one of my characters to quest 300% (in terms of travel speed getting from point A to B) faster, why shouldn't I have that option?
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  8. #48
    Didn't you quit the game or something? I could've sworn that every post that has your name attached to it is in some way about how you've either left this God forsaken game because of the quality it has become, or how the game would be, in some magical fashion, better if it had been run by you because every idea that anyone with a brain came up with is simply inferior to yours. Not trying to be rude; just trying to understand.

    OT: The game is fine as it is. If you really want to spend 10,000g to level your character with the benefit of flying, go pay that money to your [Sandstone Drake] friend. Well, that or simply get out there and level instead of complaining how leveling takes forever with a ground mount. The more you just get through the inconvenience, the less you and everyone else has to spend dealing with it... and talking about it.

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    No, 2500 would be the cap for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    I play alts from time to time, and i play very casually now (because of work and social obligations), and i have hundreds of thousands of gold. Its not hard to acquire, in fact, by the time you hit 90, you can usually have 10k+ just by questing and selling your old green gear to vendors along the way, including posting random mats you find along the way on the AH.

    Gold is not hard to obtain, stop making it out like its hard to come by. Budget your gold use better.
    It's not hard to obtain. It takes mounds of time to obtain. Yes, if you buy literally nothing (no BoAs, no enchants, no gems, potions, flight training, mount speed, cold flying, pandaria flying etc -- I never buy much of anything else from the AH, including gear) leveling from 1-90, you MIGHT have 10k gold. Think about that and tell me how it doesn't prove my point exactly.

    If you have "hundreds of thousands" of gold, you are nowhere near casual -- you're a true outlier. If you play like many players do (Quest to 15, level BGs/Dungeons from there with questing in between), you'll find yourself completely broke a large percentage of the time once you hit 90.

  11. #51
    Hey, look, another Jaylock thread. Barely breezing through it, this doesn't seem like a QQ I hate everything" thread, but who knows? I'll look through it later. But in actual answer to the question at hand, I am actually enjoying running through Pandaria on my chopper and I really didn't think I would. I was hesitant but picked up the expansion and will go month to month for a while. So, I would rather not just be able to fly around everywhere right now. Just hit 87 and have more exploring to do.
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  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Televators View Post
    It's not hard to obtain. It takes mounds of time to obtain. Yes, if you buy literally nothing (no BoAs, no enchants, no gems, potions, flight training, mount speed, cold flying, pandaria flying etc -- I never buy much of anything else from the AH, including gear) leveling from 1-90, you MIGHT have 10k gold.
    This is complete BS. Leveling your professions by just leveling up, mining / herbing / skinning / etc, and selling junk / greens, etc all the way from 1-90 yields way more than 10k. Not to mention selling your stuff along the way at the Auction House, you would definitely have that much. Its not hard, and I have done it on a few characters already.

    If you have "hundreds of thousands" of gold, you are nowhere near casual -- you're a true outlier. If you play like many players do (Quest to 15, level BGs/Dungeons from there with questing in between), you'll find yourself completely broke a large percentage of the time once you hit 90.
    Sounds like you need to get out and experience the world of warcraft instead of being all cooped up in your city all day.

    I primarily quest with a dungeon / bg every now and then because it is faster and more efficient. You should try it sometime

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-19 at 12:02 AM ----------

    27% Yes

    73% No

    And thats perfectly fine and acceptable. Some people would like the option of buying the 10k tome, while others would not spend the gold. Both are perfectly acceptable and shows that people would actually do it.
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  13. #53
    Yes. I'd actually prefer the price to be higher, but I'd do it in a heartbeat for my resto druid that I only use for herbalism.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    Actually its a licence to fly in a certain location. And you paid for those licenses at each milestone: 60 to fly in kalimdor, eastern kingdoms and cataclysm zones, 70 to fly in northrend zones and buy 280 flight speed, and 80 if you wanted 310 flight speed.

    It would just be another OPTIONAL license to fly just like all the other optional licenses and speed boosts
    It doesn't make any sense in that context, either. The Alliance and Horde don't have the authority to regulate flight in Northrend (Scourge territory) or Pandaria (anarchy) yet they do so anyway.

    Now, in Northrend this was glossed over by the logic that you learn "de-icing." But that should have only applied to two mounts -- the engineering gyrocopters. But in Pandaria they just made up some crap about the prevailing winds, because I can fly through the twisting nether all the way from Hellfire to Netherstorm... and indeed, still fly IN Netherstorm, where it's taking Goblin engineers decades to build a nether-capable rocket... but apparently the four winds of Pandaria are too perplexing for such a "novice" aviator?
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  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by Televators View Post
    Hell no. Idiots playing the AH all day have already driven the prices of everything up so high, I can barely afford to play ANY toon, much less pay a retarded amount just to bypass some content. Who are these people running around with tens of thousands of gold all the time? These people might not have anything to do but play WoW literally all day and night, but those of us who'd like to see the sun occasionally have to pay ridiculous sums on gold sinks because a few thousand people have hit the gold cap.
    So do you rly think that you need more than +1hr per day in a week to make +10k? Cute

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bloodrose View Post
    Hey, look, another Jaylock thread. Barely breezing through it, this doesn't seem like a QQ I hate everything" thread, but who knows? I'll look through it later.
    What does this has to do with the argument itself? Nothing.

    But in actual answer to the question at hand, I am actually enjoying running through Pandaria on my chopper and I really didn't think I would. I was hesitant but picked up the expansion and will go month to month for a while. So, I would rather not just be able to fly around everywhere right now. Just hit 87 and have more exploring to do.
    It would be choice.
    I think most people think that Op suggests that the flying would be raised to 10k. Thats not what OP means.
    Choice for luxury of flying at 85 is the suggested thing here.

    1) Be 85 and pay 10k for flying at 85 in pandaria
    2) Just level to 90 and pay 2k-2.5k

    Why is that choice amazingly unfair, specially when MoP was released almost 5 months ago soon. Wrath had this book too back in the day - had to have 1 char at 80 tho.
    I dont see how is this any different (well maybe being able to buy it before having 1 at 90). More people at 90, more people for LFD/LFR/Scenarios/PvP, more people.
    If you want to "rush it" then so be it. Tho rushing can be done with ground mounts too, thats where luxury of flying thro mountains comes in play. People avoid mobs anyway.
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  17. #57
    I'd pay, 10k is a pocket change for me. I'm halfway to goldcap now, after spending just as much on all Pandaria gold sinks (400k mounts, 160k gear). That makes it a mil, earned over course of 4 months.
    And I'm in a no way hardcore player. I'm 4/16 HC raider, that also farms here and there a bit, adding little AH game to it. Overall no more than 25-30 hours a week.
    Knowledge is power (or wealth in this case). I cba with anything less than 5000 gold per hour now, knowing proper ways of making lots of it.

    Blizzard keeps saying that players with >50k gold are extremely tiny fraction, well that ain't true now. Gold devalued, someone having 5,000 gold in Vanilla WoW could propably afford more stuff than I can with a million now. 2-3 crafted BOEs, couple of high-cost mounts (not even the TCGs, just retardly expensive MoP stuff), one or two bids on better BMAH items, and poof 1M gold gone. Illicit Chinese companies have more demand now than they ever did. Nice job Blizzard.
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  18. #58
    I wouldn't pay any additional amount to fly, its really not hard to quest in panda land on a ground mount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    The idea would be only after you have leveled one character to 90 by ground mount. It only unlocks the option of buying the tome once one character is level 90.

    Haven't we already experienced what panda land has to offer the first time we quested through it? If i want to buy a tome for 10k gold that enables one of my characters to quest 300% (in terms of travel speed getting from point A to B) faster, why shouldn't I have that option?
    And how would a "new" player feel if he got to Pandaria and people at his level range were allowed to fly because they had the means of paying for it.

    These sort of suggestions seem to completely ignore long-term conflict.
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  20. #60
    Where's the "Not at that price" option? A bit skewed poll, if you ask me. "No" could mean a few different things:

    1. Don't want it at all
    2. Wouldn't buy it for THAT much gold.
    3. Value of such a thing might be more than what you're asking for it.

    I would approve, but remember how much the tome was in Wrath? I'm sure it wasn't THAT much of a gold sink. Maybe more along the lines of 4k or 5k. Just my opinion.
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