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    Quote Originally Posted by Bartuck View Post


    Sums up pretty much everything.
    Law top tier? I hope they're not talking about becoming a lawyer, we have too fucking many, it's a bloody flood of them.

    Psychology if you get a masters or Psy.D or Ph.D is not low tier at all.

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    And if you can land yourself a job as a simultaneous translator (i.e. you study languages), you're talking a grand a day for a conference.
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    Do something you thoroughly enjoy, are passionate about and can do in your sleep.

    Also, that picture linked above is utter bullshit on many levels.

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    Whatever you enjoy the most is the easiest.

    Also about that picture, I laughed at life sciences being mid tier.

    http://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-...-engineers.htm
    http://www.bls.gov/ooh/Life-Physical...physicists.htm
    http://www.bls.gov/ooh/life-physical...biologists.htm


    Geology would also be in the highest tier. Petroleum Engineers make a shit load.

    http://www.bls.gov/ooh/architecture-...-engineers.htm



    All science (chemistry, biology, astronomy, geology, and possibly social) and math related majors are pretty much in the highest tier.
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    Law at the top? Lol. Incredibly overrated difficulty ftw I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prokne View Post
    Just because it states "no specific degree" it doesnt mean that they wont look at the degree you have and prioritize people with useful degrees.
    The degree you possess is only one factor in selection to OTS. At the end of the day, I could possess the most desirable degree in the world and still be denied an OTS slot. But in terms of getting a "relevant" degree, that's all determined by what field I would want to go into. In the case of my choice (maintenance officer), I could go for a "soft" choice like business or management and end up a better candidate because of it.

    But none of it matters if I don't have a degree at all, and sabotaging myself by overreaching and trying to become an electrical engineer through an online school doesn't do me any good either.

    It will also be harder for you to gain promotion if you are always looking for shortcuts and the easy way.
    You must have never served, or be new to the military. Shortcuts and the easy way is exactly what the Government and the military is looking for. Finding a shortcut or an easier way to do something is rewarded with cash, in some cases, and with awards in others.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    And if you can land yourself a job as a simultaneous translator (i.e. you study languages), you're talking a grand a day for a conference.
    Sounds like a pretty sweet gig. But legitimate online languages degrees are tough to come by, from what I've seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dole View Post

    Sounds like a pretty sweet gig. But legitimate online languages degrees are tough to come by, from what I've seen.
    That's not really the issue. The issue is that learning a language from a book alone generally will never suffice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Palmatum View Post
    That's not really the issue. The issue is that learning a language from a book alone generally will never suffice.
    I'll agree for the most part, but it all depends on the language. Spanish or French I can see someone being able to reasonably teach themselves between self-taught courses and just watching movies and TV in that language. But Mandarin Chinese or Farsi? Best of luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Dole View Post
    The degree you possess is only one factor in selection to OTS. At the end of the day, I could possess the most desirable degree in the world and still be denied an OTS slot. But in terms of getting a "relevant" degree, that's all determined by what field I would want to go into. In the case of my choice (maintenance officer), I could go for a "soft" choice like business or management and end up a better candidate because of it.

    But none of it matters if I don't have a degree at all, and sabotaging myself by overreaching and trying to become an electrical engineer through an online school doesn't do me any good either.



    You must have never served, or be new to the military. Shortcuts and the easy way is exactly what the Government and the military is looking for. Finding a shortcut or an easier way to do something is rewarded with cash, in some cases, and with awards in others.



    Sounds like a pretty sweet gig. But legitimate online languages degrees are tough to come by, from what I've seen.
    This sums it up pretty well. A list of "God Tier" degree is rather useless if you are looking for a degree in order to check a box. Largely when applying for OCS or OTS they look at the whole package. I've known people who got accepted with a pilot slot in the USAF with an engineering degree, and I've known people to get in with a business degree, or liberal studies.

    If you don't want to be an engineer don't do engineering. Selection boards look heavily at GPA. Why should OP take a harder degree and risk a lower GPA?

    OP, I would suggest working towards something light, but still useful to what you want to do in the service. I think you said you wanted to be a MX Officer? Shit man, get a business degree in Management. It's not a hard science degree, and it's fairly well related to the field you want to serve in, IE leadership.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lazymangaka View Post
    I'll agree for the most part, but it all depends on the language. Spanish or French I can see someone being able to reasonably teach themselves between self-taught courses and just watching movies and TV in that language. But Mandarin Chinese or Farsi? Best of luck.
    When I started to learn Mandarin it was from books and self-teaching... It was ridiculous lol. I speak it well now, what most what consider fluent, but I ended up having lessons 4 times a week for a few years. Spent a fair while in China to immerse myself in it as well which helped a huge deal and I speak it every day now pretty much.

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    the best subject to study is one your good at

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    If you have the aptitude for it Chemistry is an amazing degree which will see you develop skills which can be applied in ANY career you choose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poser765 View Post
    This sums it up pretty well. A list of "God Tier" degree is rather useless if you are looking for a degree in order to check a box.
    The other big issue with that list is many of the "god tier" are actually graduate degrees (medicine and law in particular). If you've got a PhD in physics, sure, you'll get a high-paying job, most likely. A BSc in Physics, though, means you've got enough education to clean the lab up for the actual scientists and to proofread lab reports for them.

    Most undergraduate degrees are equally crap. A BA in something like history is often a better degree than one in, say, Chemistry. A BSc in Chemistry means you've got the skillset to be an entry-level lab tech and that's about it; anything more complicated involves further study/training and the skills aren't widely applicable outside the lab. There's still the dedication and focus required to do the work, which is why all degrees have value, but a history degree by comparison teaches you very solid research skills that can be applied to a host of different fields.

    As I'm well aware, as I have a BA in history, and I've worked as a research associate doing work that's wildly different; mostly environmental science research.


    Long story short; if you aren't going to get at least a Master's, it doesn't matter a whole lot WHAT degree you take.

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    Dont you have anything like a GSO(General Service Officer). We have that in the Australian Defence Forces...
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    Go business. It's useful in day to day life, unlike the majority of subjects.

    In what way is medicine God-tier? The actual study or entering the field?
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    it's always sad seeing people put so much worth in the degree u get based on how much you could make. I love history/anthropology and i'm going to end up doing something there. I'm looking to do something that i love, not some job for some cash.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Systam View Post
    it's always sad seeing people put so much worth in the degree u get based on how much you could make. I love history/anthropology and i'm going to end up doing something there. I'm looking to do something that i love, not some job for some cash.
    Therein lies my problem. What I want to do is be a United States Air Force officer, but what I need to do to make that happen is get a degree. That renders the degree almost irrelevant to me except for the purpose of becoming an officer. Hence wanting to find the path of least resistance towards getting the degree.

    I'm not simply attempting to skimp out on education, but right now education IS a barrier for my goals.

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    9 out of 10 people agree that in a room full of 10 people one person will always disagree with the other 9.

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    To test your interest in various subjects check out the online "open education" offerings from schools like Stanford, MIT, Harvard, etc. Youtube has a great selection of course videos to start with http://www.youtube.com/education

    There's also:
    EdX, courses from Harvard, MIT and other top schools: https://www.edx.org/
    Lifehacker's overview of course offerings by subject: http://lifehacker.com/5974371/plan-y...-semester-2013
    Class videos from several top schools. For example Stanford has their full programming lecture series here, intro through advanced programming: http://www.academicearth.org/
    MIT: http://ocw.mit.edu/index.htm
    Carnegie Mellon: http://oli.cmu.edu/
    Berkeley: http://webcast.berkeley.edu/
    Princeton: http://hulk03.princeton.edu:8080/WebMedia/lectures/
    NYU: http://www.nyu.edu/academics/open-education.html
    Saylor foundation: http://www.saylor.org/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Law top tier? I hope they're not talking about becoming a lawyer, we have too fucking many, it's a bloody flood of them.

    Psychology if you get a masters or Psy.D or Ph.D is not low tier at all.
    The difference is some get out of good universities -> the ones who actually achieve something...
    And those who get out of the "1+1=2" universities -> the ones who actually achieve nothing...
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