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    What should I know about PvE servers

    Last night leveling my monk, and this morning leveling it again, I'm getting ganked by high level flyers at the rate of once every 10 minutes (usually concentrated in pockets of misery). I've played since vanilla on a high-pop PvP server where there was a lot of opposite faction, but leveling has never been this terrible. So I decided to shell out the $25 for a server transfer.

    Is there anything I should know about PvE servers. I've heard terms like "flagging", but I don't know what that is or how it happens. Besides flagging (for PvP I assume?), are there any differences to know about?

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    There are no differences except you are not PvP by default and must flag yourself if you wish to enter PvP combat. There are some actions that can auto-flag you, but unless you turn the flag on, you won't remain in PvP:

    - Attacking an enemy player that is flagged (they will appear yellow from a distance and red up close)
    - Healing or buffing a friendly pvp-flagged player
    - Attacking a PvP NPC
    - Entering a PvP zone like inner Tol Barad or Wintergrasp

    Doing PvE content like a random dungeon or raid will reset your flag back to unflagged, or 5 minutes of non-pvp combat in a non-pvp zone will return you to an unflagged state unless you manually toggle on your flag.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    Attacking an enemy player that is flagged (they will appear yellow from a distance and red up close)
    Red if you're pvp flagged, yellow if you aren't, regardless of distance.

    Also taking flight path drops pvp flag immediately if you didn't turn it on yourself. Most common way to get pvp flagged in pve realm is outdoor bosses like Sha of Anger where aoe'ing in an area with pvp flagged enemies in it will attack them and also get you flagged.

    Oh, and it's /pvp to enable it.
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    Guards hit extremely hard on pve servers, particularly for neutral factions. Shrine guards, cenarion/hyjal guardians, Argent Crusade guards, Half-hill guards, neutral goblins of steamwheedle cartel and so on, can kill tanks even in a relatively short amount of time with massively hard hits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesseblah View Post
    Red if you're pvp flagged, yellow if you aren't, regardless of distance.
    Must be unique to ElvUI or Tidyplates: I see PvP-flagged enemies as yellow from a distance



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    OK, that's really helpful. Thanks all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    Must be unique to ElvUI or Tidyplates: I see PvP-flagged enemies as yellow from a distance
    He's saying that they'll appear red to you if you're flagged as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raintola View Post
    He's saying that they'll appear red to you if you're flagged as well.
    My brain totally died and didn't even read that part



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    There are no differences except you are not PvP by default and must flag yourself if you wish to enter PvP combat. There are some actions that can auto-flag you, but unless you turn the flag on, you won't remain in PvP:

    - Attacking an enemy player that is flagged (they will appear yellow from a distance and red up close)
    - Healing or buffing a friendly pvp-flagged player
    - Attacking a PvP NPC
    - Entering a PvP zone like inner Tol Barad or Wintergrasp

    Doing PvE content like a random dungeon or raid will reset your flag back to unflagged, or 5 minutes of non-pvp combat in a non-pvp zone will return you to an unflagged state unless you manually toggle on your flag.
    Also, entering an opposing faction's city will automatically PvP flag you.

    As for the AoE thing, I believe Blizzard made it so that you can not be forced into PvP combat with indirect AoE attacks back in Cataclysm. Now if you use a Cleave-like ability and there's a PvP player around to be hit by it, you will get flagged for that but not for an ability like Hurricane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Also, entering an opposing faction's city will automatically PvP flag you.
    Certain faction towns also flag you if you get close.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Certain faction towns also flag you if you get close.
    Well I think that all falls under attacking (or being attacked) by a PvP NPC. It goes without saying.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Darsithis View Post
    Well I think that all falls under attacking (or being attacked) by a PvP NPC. It goes without saying.

    No, you can be flagged even if you don't aggro anything, or even go into combat, just by crossing a boundary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trubo View Post
    Also, entering an opposing faction's city will automatically PvP flag you.

    As for the AoE thing, I believe Blizzard made it so that you can not be forced into PvP combat with indirect AoE attacks back in Cataclysm. Now if you use a Cleave-like ability and there's a PvP player around to be hit by it, you will get flagged for that but not for an ability like Hurricane.
    Holy. Freaking. Crap. You just blew my mind. I did not know they changed this.

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