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  1. #2041
    I did it as Affliction, set Kanth to your focus and use a SB:SS focus macro to keep him dot'd up as you deal with the other mechanics.
    Be sure to keep 1 shard for the imps (SB:SoC) and 3 for the felhounds as well. Drain life on the imps as aff makes them pretty trivial as well.

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    As long as AE wasn't an issue I couldn't see affliction posing an issue. I'm guessing soulburn + SoD would wipe them out fairly quickly.

    I never used ember tap when I did this as destro though. So while it was nice to have the option, I dont think it's the end all spec for this fight. Frankly I think a propperly geared demo warlock could rock this encounter 6 ways from sunday.
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  3. #2043
    I will say Im not the best player and I have not been in a raiding guild since wrath, but this fight is extremely intimidating at first. I never thought I would down it. The best strat is to put the gateway in front of the soulwell to spawn him and accross the metal gated area on the floor. Then reset aggro at every chance(jumping with the gateway), have pitlord charge and felflame the imps. Send pitlord to upper right hand corner, take the gateway to reset ebonlockes aggro, then take on the fel pups with no problems. Always use singe magic every CD and the pit lords breath. Some say banish the second Doomlord, but my pit lord held aggro on both of them. then just continue resetting your aggro and cleaning your dots and your gold.

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    I have no problem with the Imps, and I now i have Charge and Chaos Bolt under control but now i am choking on the Felhounds.

    I have been trying the strategy of moving my Pit Lord out of LOS of the hound before they spawn, but on various occasions i have not had them down fast enough before they killed me, or i have had to pull my Pit Lord back into combat to charge a Cataclysm and they ate his enslave buff or i didn't dump aggro with the portal and Kan chaosbolted me before i could get out of LOS.

    Still need to practice i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grubjuice View Post
    I have no problem with the Imps, and I now i have Charge and Chaos Bolt under control but now i am choking on the Felhounds.

    I have been trying the strategy of moving my Pit Lord out of LOS of the hound before they spawn, but on various occasions i have not had them down fast enough before they killed me, or i have had to pull my Pit Lord back into combat to charge a Cataclysm and they ate his enslave buff or i didn't dump aggro with the portal and Kan chaosbolted me before i could get out of LOS.

    Still need to practice i guess.
    What I found works everytime is, chaos bolt the 1st one, havoc the second one, chaos bolt the 3rd one.

    When the 2nd chaos bolt lands, have the pit lord charge, and breath on them, and shadowburn kill the stragglers.

    Wipes em out in 10-12 seconds flat.
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  6. #2046
    Sorry to start up this thread again.

    Has anyone ever encountered a streak of bad luck where the Chaos Bolts that Ebonlocke cast crit you?

    I usually soak one, to ensure the interrupt of cataclysm. I gave it a few tries last night, and Ebonlocke critted me several times in a row.

    Starting to think that green fire is for the cool and lucky players, and not the shitters such as myself

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logilock View Post
    Sorry to start up this thread again.

    Has anyone ever encountered a streak of bad luck where the Chaos Bolts that Ebonlocke cast crit you?

    I usually soak one, to ensure the interrupt of cataclysm. I gave it a few tries last night, and Ebonlocke critted me several times in a row.

    Starting to think that green fire is for the cool and lucky players, and not the shitters such as myself
    I think most people use a strat that involves not taking ANY chaos bolts.

    I'd be more than happy to record how I did it if you'd like, but I think you'll probably find more than enough videos already for avoiding it.
    Last edited by prwraith; 2013-07-22 at 11:07 AM.
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    Starting to think that green fire is for the cool and lucky players, and not the shitters such as myself
    Just like prwraith said, most simply rely on avoiding chaos bolt using LoS.

    There's so many great tips, videos etc in this thread that you should find everything you need to get it done. It can be frustrating, but keep trying. Learn the flow of the fight and eventually you will get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logilock View Post
    Sorry to start up this thread again.

    Has anyone ever encountered a streak of bad luck where the Chaos Bolts that Ebonlocke cast crit you?

    I usually soak one, to ensure the interrupt of cataclysm. I gave it a few tries last night, and Ebonlocke critted me several times in a row.

    Starting to think that green fire is for the cool and lucky players, and not the shitters such as myself
    Its definitely best to use the strat where you reset your agro to avoid chaos bolts. If in the heat of things you mess up you can pop your defensive CDs but overall you should avoid most of them.

  10. #2050
    I'd agree with the above posters, as with most of my final attempts I didn't even have a single Chaos Bolt cast at me.

    I will burn your soul.

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    a few tips to whoever wants to try their hands on green fire soon:

    1) key talents are: mannoroth's fury (for much more effective aoe) unbound will ( for emergency dot cleans when singe magic is on cd ) sacrificial pact ( for any kind of emergency, especially with fel hunter packs ) grimoire of sacrifice ( since your only demon will be the pit lord, sacrificing an imp before the fight is almost mandatory ) rest of the talents are unrelated - unimportant in my opinion. many people consider shadowfury over mortal coil, but i did it with mortal coil just fine.

    2) key glyphs are: glyph of enslave demon , glyph of demonic gate. rest is unrelated - unimportant.

    3) now to light a few important things about the actual fight: ( i will go from most important to least important btw )

    a) go destro. i know a lot of people done it with different specs but this quest is screaming and begging for destro spec. do so.

    b) at start, go all out with any - every cooldowns you own. you will have some free time on him so use it wisely.

    c) fel imp phase: nothing too important, just try to position yourself between your pit lord and imps, then use flame breathe to both clean up your dots and kill the imps. keep brimstoned immolate on imps at all times, so generally 1 or 2 rain of fires will kill them off.

    d) fel hunter phase: WARNING !!! READ HERE CAREFULLY !!! this phase is where %99 of us struggled for various reasons. first of all, do NOT move when the boss starts to channel his summon spell for fel hunters. do NOT even use your mouse to turn yourself to any side. just stand still, else you will lose your beloved pit lord which leads to a certain wipe no matter what. second, send your pit lord away from boss, logically to the other side of the portal, wherever you are standing. third,use rain of fire on the portal where it should still be hitting boss as well. fourth, use soul shatter as soon as boss finishes his channeling. fifth, use brimstone and immolate. sixth, use havoc on any of the fel hunters. seventh, refresh your rain of fire. eighth, use chaos bolt on some other fel hunter, not on the havoced one ofc. nineth, refresh your rain of fire and if you need use sacrificial pact now. tenth, if all fel hunters arent dead by now, you are practically gonna wipe. boss will start to channel his ultimate doom and you have to stop him with your pit lord's charge ability, which leads him to move and leads you to lose him due to fel hunters. i know it sounds confusing but this is what you need to do at fel hunter phase.

    e) doom guard phase. nothing serious, either banish, let it hit you or use flame breathe of pit lord to keep aggro on your pet. it is up to you. i didnt even touch them and continued attacking the boss with all my aoes. they dont hit so hard.

    f) at second fel imp phase, do NOT use brimstoned immolate. just use rain of fire and practically spam chaos bolts on boss by using your demonic gateway and singe magic while they are not on cd.

    g) second fel hunter phase is and will be more chaotic than first one. try to remember the order. if there any fel imps left, they will die soon because of your constant aoe.

    h) second doom guard phase. unimportant.

    i) third fel imp phase is where you will start your shadowburn spam. just use rain of fire on boss and imps alltogether, and spam the shit out of your shadowburn button.

    i hope i was helpful to even 1 of you guys out there. if you have any other specific questions about the fight itself or any other thing, feel free to do so.

    p.s: did it with half tot, half toes lfr gear.

  12. #2052
    I just completed the quest this past weekend after returning to the game after a long hiatus. I was able to do this in a mix of a few LFR epics and heroic dungeon blues (~480ilvl).

    Anyway, I cannot understate the importance of using your gate at every opportunity to dump aggro. Simply not having to worry about taking Chaos Bolts was probably the biggest factor in helping me succeed. That and saving cooldowns for Felhunters.

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    The aggro drop is useful for those warlocks who aren't used to clicking a lot of abilities. Specifically the one the pet has to heal you. Using the gateway at every opportunity lessens the healing needed.

    That ones really just a whichever you're more comfortable with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prwraith View Post
    The aggro drop is useful for those warlocks who aren't used to clicking a lot of abilities. Specifically the one the pet has to heal you. Using the gateway at every opportunity lessens the healing needed.

    That ones really just a whichever you're more comfortable with.
    The pet heal means nothing if the chaos bolt kills you, which it will if you're not doing the LOS method, as your damage mitigation cooldowns will not be up often enough to mitigate chaos bolt if you're the target each time.

    I would also argue that constantly using the gate is you having to use more abilities, as you will be gate warping much more often than if you simply try to deal with the chaos bolt at the time it is cast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malifik View Post
    The pet heal means nothing if the chaos bolt kills you, which it will if you're not doing the LOS method, as your damage mitigation cooldowns will not be up often enough to mitigate chaos bolt if you're the target each time.

    I would also argue that constantly using the gate is you having to use more abilities, as you will be gate warping much more often than if you simply try to deal with the chaos bolt at the time it is cast.
    That's true but you don't need to use the gate on cooldown to los the bolts. Using it on cooldown just keeps him focused on your pit lord for longer.

    Honestly I found just keeping a demonic circle up overthere was more than enough, but I always took the gate back just for the aggro drop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Malifik View Post
    The pet heal means nothing if the chaos bolt kills you, which it will if you're not doing the LOS method, as your damage mitigation cooldowns will not be up often enough to mitigate chaos bolt if you're the target each time.

    I would also argue that constantly using the gate is you having to use more abilities, as you will be gate warping much more often than if you simply try to deal with the chaos bolt at the time it is cast.
    IIRC I relied on Sacrificial Pact / Soul Leech for most Chaos Bolts. Soulshatter starting right before first pups came out and then on cd after, and I didn't have to use the gateway.

    I do love there are multiple ways to handle the various mechanics, tho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Count Zero View Post
    IIRC I relied on Sacrificial Pact / Soul Leech for most Chaos Bolts. Soulshatter starting right before first pups came out and then on cd after, and I didn't have to use the gateway.

    I do love there are multiple ways to handle the various mechanics, tho
    I think your method would give you more time on boss. And make it end quicker. Doing the gateway method he died right as the 2nd doom lord started to summon. Without using gateways I wonder if I could have killed him at the 2nd fel hound phase.
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  18. #2058

    Kanrethad still unbeatable

    Hi there...

    So I counted.
    25 different guides, about 800 trys and about 13600 gold in repair costs and I still don't even come close to beating him.

    I barely make it to the point to where he summons the fel hunters, they just ALWAYS manage to break my doom lord. Everything that happens, happens way too fast for me to act, sometimes the mechanics work, sometimes they don't... I dunno. Am I just too bad for this? I raided in classic and bc back then, downed Nefarian, vashj, Kaelthas and Illidan as well as Kiljaeden, raided in the upper tiers of content during wotlk and cataclysm too. I'm an experienced player, but this just knocks my hat off...

  19. #2059
    There's definately you're doing wrong, could you describe the fight step by step from your point?

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    well... either keep trying or wait till you overgear it... dont know what else to say here since you read all those guides, you probably know what to do.

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