Patch 5.2 Elder Charms Changes, Patch 5.2 Legendary Quests, Blue Posts, TCG Art

[dotSeed]

NO, I just wouldn't do them in that case. Thats where there is clearly a choice.

Any progressive guild is going to expect its members to put in the effort to kit themselves out the best they can in the shortest time. Giving up a potential seven+ extra loot chances a week is not a choice for those people. People are not complaining about having to do something in game for a reward. They're complaining that being forced to log in daily to do the same quests over and over again is extremely monotonous. If Blizzard is going with this loot model then they should support more means of acquisition and cap the number you can acquire weekly.

[Quilzar]

The cap you can spend each week is limited to the number of bosses you're killing that you need gear from, as well as the number of charms you have.

Emm if that is the case then I am not really sure I agree with it.

Right now you can only get 3 a week.

In 5.2 if you can clear 13/13 you get 13 bonus rolls (if you get the coins) that seems more than a "Bonus" to me

[Maelstrom51]

In 5.2 if you can clear 13/13 you get 13 bonus rolls (if you get the coins) that seems more than a "Bonus" to me

Well in order to do that you would have to stock up in previous weeks. I am guessing that the sunreaver chest is awarded for finishing all the dailies in the new area, meaning the max earned per week is 10, but the chance of that would be low.

Don't get me wrong though. I still think this is one of the stupidest things blizzard could have done. In order to get the biggest advantage possible, you have to grind dailies every single day. This doesn't give us more options, it funnels us into doing one specific, boring type of content.

[Pacster]

*remove low pop servers and give the players free transfers to normal pop servers and problem solved

If it was truly that simple, don't you think we would have done so? One tiny example: what if someone has your name already? (Source)

free name change. players would be happy to name change. rather then playing on none pop realm

With all due respect, I think you're wrong that players will happily change their names. (Source)

With ALL do respect..you also want the 25$ soo yeaa =/*


What a ridiculous reply. Seriously. Why don't they just let the PLAYERS decide? Give those dead servers(on my server there are exactly 3 active raids with 10 players both fractions combined!...and one of them wants to trans. No RBG group. No pvp team. Excatly 2 groups that seriously tried to do challenge modes(none better than silver). The sha gets killed once or twice per week. no random raids...not even retro-raids. The AH is almost dead. Even the Realmpool is so dead that we hardly managed to ever win against the dwarfs at the brewfest or killed the fires of the horseman) the option to trans for free with all their stuff...and the players are going to give you their answer. I don't know a single player who likes playing on my server anymore(and I'm sure most a creative enough to come up with a new nick in case they should really need one. And not all will need one.)...and I know that paying 25€ for a trans of one char while leaving millions of gold behind and STILL possibly having to change the nick is NO real choice.

If blizz really cares for the players they need to give them a choice. Currently it looks like the last sentence is right on target. Blizz has not named a single good argument so far why they don't give a dead server the choice. Just cheap excuses....fake arguements...nut picking....and distracting.....

For me there are only two options: Either blizz will do something about the situation or that's it for me with games of blizzard(Diablo III was rather disappointing...and with the lesson we learn from dead servers I'm not willing to try Titan and get stuck on some dead server again with blizz not caring at all.). One player more or less doesn't matter...but given that the dead server situation can hit ANYONE...well...

[Quilzar]

Well in order to do that you would have to stock up in previous weeks. I am guessing that the sunreaver chest is awarded for finishing all the dailies in the new area, meaning the max earned per week is 10, but the chance of that would be low.

Don't get me wrong though. I still think this is one of the stupidest things blizzard could have done. In order to get the biggest advantage possible, you have to grind dailies every single day. This doesn't give us more options, it funnels us into doing one specific, boring type of content.

Remember you can get them from Pet Battles in 5.2 as well so no "soft cap" per week right now.

They should increase the number you can hold (like the did).

But there should defo be a cap on how many you can spend.

Maybe its could be an interesting catchup mechanic so something like "5.0 raids you can spend as many coins as you like but you can only spend 3 in the 5.2 raids".

I do 100% agree there should be other ways of getting coins as well (not from raiding though)

Also guess it is still PTR right, who knows what will change.

I really wish they would post a PvE loot blog like the PvP one they did.

I still want to know if Valor is going to get reset etc etc.

[ExtremeActionTess]

Regarding the elder charm change: Close but no cigar

[Maelstrom51]

Remember you can get them from Pet Battles in 5.2 as well so no "soft cap" per week right now.

Pet battles only give lesser charms, no? I haven't played on the PTR, so I can't confirm.

[Holymoocow]

i have 200 lesser charms, can only turn them in once weeks for birds and make worse half time i use it just get gold than be waste.. take months just get some gear out of lfr.
I have gotten same item from elder charm roll... valor and justice grind so slow.

[Descense]

*remove low pop servers and give the players free transfers to normal pop servers and problem solved

If it was truly that simple, don't you think we would have done so? One tiny example: what if someone has your name already? (Source)

free name change. players would be happy to name change. rather then playing on none pop realm

With all due respect, I think you're wrong that players will happily change their names. (Source)

With ALL do respect..you also want the 25$ soo yeaa =/*


What a ridiculous reply. Seriously. Why don't they just let the PLAYERS decide? Give those dead servers(on my server there are exactly 3 active raids with 10 players both fractions combined!...and one of them wants to trans. No RBG group. No pvp team. Excatly 2 groups that seriously tried to do challenge modes(none better than silver). The sha gets killed once or twice per week. no random raids...not even retro-raids. The AH is almost dead. Even the Realmpool is so dead that we hardly managed to ever win against the dwarfs at the brewfest or killed the fires of the horseman) the option to trans for free with all their stuff...and the players are going to give you their answer. I don't know a single player who likes playing on my server anymore(and I'm sure most a creative enough to come up with a new nick in case they should really need one. And not all will need one.)...and I know that paying 25€ for a trans of one char while leaving millions of gold behind and STILL possibly having to change the nick is NO real choice.

If blizz really cares for the players they need to give them a choice. Currently it looks like the last sentence is right on target. Blizz has not named a single good argument so far why they don't give a dead server the choice. Just cheap excuses....fake arguements...nut picking....and distracting.....

For me there are only two options: Either blizz will do something about the situation or that's it for me with games of blizzard(Diablo III was rather disappointing...and with the lesson we learn from dead servers I'm not willing to try Titan and get stuck on some dead server again with blizz not caring at all.). One player more or less doesn't matter...but given that the dead server situation can hit ANYONE...well...

I belive that you need too do shitload of dailys too unlock the forge and its server based... smiliar like silithus event or isle of gankalas.

But i am not stupid.... as soon as i get exelated rep with prince and new faction exelated i will quit doing them. I dont care abauth a *extra* charm with 0.00000000000001% droprate.

[Maelstrom51]

But i am not stupid.... as soon as i get exelated rep with prince and new faction exelated i will quit doing them. I dont care abauth a *extra* charm with 0.00000000000001% droprate.

I wouldn't be surprised if the drop rate was similar to Spirit of Harmony's drop rate in the golden lotus treasures. In which case it would be a 1/3 chance, and you'd expect 2-3 charms each week by doing the new daily hub every day.

[Sarevokcz]

Yea, I guess adding Charm chance to Wolrd Boss chest, rare mob bags and last bosses in challenge modes made too much sense for Blizzaard to do. HERE YOU GO, MORE DAILIES!

[Quilzar]

Yea, I guess adding Charm chance to Wolrd Boss chest, rare mob bags and last bosses in challenge modes made too much sense for Blizzaard to do. HERE YOU GO, MORE DAILIES!

You do understand what the concept of the PTR is right?

[quikbunny]

The ultimate change for the Elder Charms would be having them ACCOUNT WIDE. Would make rep grinds on alts make sense, and give us a reason to continue daily grinding after we are fully geared up.

[Sarevokcz]

You do understand what the concept of the PTR is right?

Yes, which is why I question why the fuck would they added charms to completely new bag and not to the half a dozen others already in game in the same patch or even before. I play WoW for 7 years, I have heard "stop QQ, wait till the PTR is finished" nonsense one too many times.

[Nerraw]

The exact same logic can be used for gems and enchants. We can agree that gems and enchants are de facto required, yes?

You can still get lesser versions of gems and enchants for a fraction of the cost/time invested. Same with the coins. If you don't use them, you get less loot. If you invest the time in getting the coins, you get more loot.

[hiragana]

This definately looks to be the last expansion for me, seems blizzard is trying to make dailies the main selling part of the game.

[Granyala]

25heroic guild with 2 ferals in the raid.1 into dailies the other not.Dailies feral got gear quick from Bonus Rolls and was able to outbid the non dailies feral when the Polearm from Spirit Kings dropped.All of you as a present or former Raiders/Heroic Raiders feels that its ok that you can outbid someone over a heroic (or normal,after all a raid weapon is a raid weapon) just because you gathered 4 tongues and 11 feathers day after day?

The Other Druid put in more effort and got gear faster. He also was Lucky, since there is still a lot of RNG involved.

Hell I got my Sha weapon in a bonus roll (commented by a manly squeal in TS). Saved me around 2000 DKP easily and made it really simple to complete my Tier set.

Working as intended.

[Korru]

Actually, not from heroics, but the developers are planning to let you have a chance to earn Lesser Charms of Good Fortune through Pet Battles. Basically, if you win, you'll have a chance of receiving charms based on your pet level.

Oh that's nice, I don't have to do dailies anymore.

A month later...

Patch 5.2 adds another way to earn Elder Charms, through daily quests! It seems that the Sunreaver Supply Crate and Kirin Tor Supply Crate have a chance to drop an Elder Charm of Good Fortune. The cap on these has been increased to 20, up from 10.

GOD ****IT!!!

[Somewowguy]

remove low pop servers and give the players free transfers to normal pop servers and problem solved
If it was truly that simple, don't you think we would have done so? One tiny example: what if someone has your name already? (Source)
free name change. players would be happy to name change. rather then playing on none pop realm
With all due respect, I think you're wrong that players will happily change their names. (Source)
With ALL do respect..you also want the 25$ soo yeaa =/
Generally speaking, WoW has been successful because players enjoy playing it, not because we gouge them. Players see through that. (Source)
WoW has been successful, cuz of it's RTS legacy and lack of competition at start. The gouging came with Activision
That's just tinfoil hat stuff from players guessing how we work. Look at Tom's recent answer on that question. (Source)

All that was pretty funny. All I see is "people dont wanna name change" and "WoW would be just as successful without all the extra fees". So...lets see it. Open up free transfers for a week, and see how many people move/faction xfer, and see how much $ they lose. Greedy assholes.

[Rorcanna]

Just look at all the arrogant muppets posting as if they knew shit about anything going on at Blizzard...they're so bitter and dumb that they even deny that WoW became huge because it's a damned fine game, now and then, not because players were forced into it. A game doesn't rise to 12 million subscribers just by "lack of competition".

I'd hate to be a parent to them kids, must have been an ongoing battle just getting them to grasp why they should tidy up their rooms.