the rating is inflated, thus you'll get more points per week (but still not enough) and you won't face opponents outside your skill/gear-brackets, but the point is the 27k cap is way too high to get the full set before the next patch is on the ptr already (thus being 4-8 weeks away at max.).
besides the too high cap and that rbg's are rewarded a lot more -thus mandatory- everything with this changes is perfectly fine.
but as long as we don't know how much the ratings will be inflated there's nothing to be evaluated.
Ok going by the Blizzard previous release schedule, 5.2 and the beginning of the next season is going to be roughly in March or April (Heart of the Swarm launch might push it earlier in feb, or later in April). 5.3 will likely be somewhere in November/December (and this will likely last until next exp which will be around July/October 2014).
If you start 5 weeks in (April/May) You'll have a disgusting amount of time to catch (on top of the 5k bonus you can win)
If you start 10 weeks (June/July) Get 10k bonus you can win and still around 16 weeks before season ends if you really wanna go hardcore + the rating inflation. Assuming a 6 month season at the smallest or 26 weeks.
Only if you start really really really late like week 19-20 would you have a chance of not being fully geared by the end of the season and thus "catch" up to be able to compete for Glad ratings, but at that point, I'd say that's more than fair. However you'd still have a "chance" since you'd have 20k banked and in theory you could go super hardcore 1-2 weeks and hit 27k, just probably not get fully geared in the Elite gear.
Rating sellers are trying to find flaws in the system, but seem to forget that the current status quo is far more horrible and broken.
In the current system: You can't Catch up, You end up playing rating sellers by the ton once you hit 1800-2100 on any type of Conquest pvp, and Glad gets decided largely in the first two weeks on almost every battle group save 1.
Okay so I'm not a hardcore PvPer, so I don't know the nitty gritty, but here's what I'm hearing from this thread:
Elite Gear is now purchaseable after a lot of CP is obtained for the season (similar to the CP weapons, just much higher), when previously, you needed a high rating (2200+?) to get it. They also increased the iLevel on it.
So what you're complaining about is you won't be able to get the full set because you're not good enough to get enough points?
If that's the case I'm hearing then... Wow. That's like bitching you won't ever get heroic raiding gear because you aren't good enough for heroic raids.
Want the full set? Do better. Find a group that is at least your skill or higher and run Arena/RBGs with them. They're allowing you to get the set without needing a high rating, and you're COMPLAINING about that?!
Effort = Rewards. Effort + Skill = More Rewards. Effort + Skill + Success = Even More Rewards. This is how every aspect of WoW works, and I really don't get why you're complaining about it. What did you expect them to do? Just hand them out to every person who does a week's worth of BGs???
HOWEVER: If the scenario I said ISN'T the case, then ignore my post and carry on
Still wondering why I play this game.
I'm a Rogue and I also made a spreadsheet for the Order Hall that is updated for BfA.
i like the new system because a grp trying to raise rating later in a season wont get blocked off because ppl who may be even worse then them have better gear they wont be able to obtain
i live by one motto! "lolwut?"
It's just a vocal minority (mostly rating sellers) trying to apply the same logic that got Blizzard to consider the changes to the new system, but when you run all the scenarios and the combination of changes they have put in... You realize it just doesn't apply.
I'm even impressed they came up with extra things like how once you hit 27k you could swap specs completely by using honor to catch up.
I have an weekly cap of about 3574 conquest points and I am still sure I wont be able to finish the entire second set and fully upgrade it even when holding my current rating in the next season. And upward there isn't much air, let's say the rating is inflated by around 200 points, then I'd be pushing high warlord and still only earn around 3699 points per week.
No upgrading in 5.2
IE: if you hold that rating, you'll likely have 2 full sets before mid season.
22k points into first set, 27k you have 5k to put into first Elite set or two major pieces... Around week 8 with Zero inflation. So both rings Cloak and Bracers of first set at week 8 (for simplicities sake). 18500 to finish the rest of the set or 6 weeks, so by week 14 you have full first set, assuming zero inflation. 18000-22500k later (depending on how much overlap between your specs for Trinkets, rings and cloaks) or 7 weeksish later or week 21 You'll have second full set. Again accounting for zero inflation. Assuming a relatively short season of 6 months or 26 weeks, you'll have 2 full sets WELL before season ends.
Sorry if it's a bit hard to read, but TLDR of that paragraph, 2 full sets around week 21 assuming zero inflation and 3500 points a week.
Last edited by Captaincrab; 2013-01-23 at 06:53 AM.
I actually find it funny how Ghostcrawler worded it like it was helping the community and reducing the gear gap, which in actual fact it's done the complete opposite.
Unless you RBG, you'll have to cap every week and if you dont, you wont be fully geared by season-end. (Bear in mind they might be bringing item upgrades back in 5.3, that's another 20k+ conquest you've got to earn).
Some people will never be happy. You take away the rating requirement so that everyone has access to the elite gear and then the same people that previously couldn't get it now complain that it will take longer to get it (when they weren't even able to obtain it in the first place).
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Here's the thing, with the exception of normal Battlegrounds which can group up people of all sorts, you won't fall behind, you'll just be somewhere lower on the ladder, as opposed to what it is right now, where no matter how far behind you are, you'll end up beating your head against people selling rating with 2200 weapons.
Queue times also get better when people actually play games and aren't paranoid about losing rating every game.