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    Will HC Soaking halp!

    Hi, just my guild started progress on will hc tonight, and we are sitting here with basically a soaking problem of people not being able to stay alive/hold aggro etc.. we don't have a rogue
    Comp

    Blood DK
    Brewmaster/Prot Warrior*

    Affli Lock*/WW
    Boomkin
    Arcane Mage
    Arcane Mage
    Shadow Priest
    Surv Hunter

    Holy Priest (he refuses to go disc, so this isn't a option, sadly)
    Resto Shaman

    any advice on soaking rotation? atm I (blood dk) am also soaking the first 2 sparks

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    are u serious? you have loads of soakers lol, sit 1 mage, and take lock, boomkin, mage, priest, hunter, blood DK As your "DPS".. and let the monk/war tank.

    Get 1 mage to spec cauterize, and blink the strength spark.

    Get the lock to get dark bargin to take the 1st courage, then boomkin to symbiosis warlock, and use 40% from lock, 20% barskin, and might of ursoc to soak 2nd courage. After this you just alternate lock > druid > lock druid etc

    kill 1st set of ragers and have hunter soak them.
    mage+hunter cc's 2nd set of rages (while raid goes to kill courage)
    then AOE all 4 ragers at the same time, and have hunter soak all 4, and have the priest as backup with disperse incase any get loose / they dont die same time.


    Thats all ur soaking taken care of... mage takes cauterize incase he fails to blink it, and then he can also use iceblock as a backup if cauterize is on CD. (plus he can always ask the priest to help out)

    Have your blood DK tanking the strength in DPS gear, and have him spec into mass grip, this is SO useful for this fight its unreal. Have him use the mass grip on the 4 ragers, followed by the boomkins vortex, then shadow priest roots, and even a mage ring of frost.

    We personally use blood lust on the 1st set of 4x Rages, because theres no "break" here, as instead of a break, the boss's spawn. Just lets us deal with a 2nd lot of adds a lot easier w/o a break




    Disc isnt really needed for this fight if u have all the soakers that you do, so holy isnt that bad of an option (refusing to play disc is a pretty pathetic attitude tho). Just have both ur shaman + priest using their raid healing CDs off cooldown to help with mana.



    You should easily be able to kill it if u have enough dps and practised it enough. You have literately 1 of the best setups for wil of emp

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    Greater Invisibility from both mages, Dispersion, Deterrence every minute, Dark Bargain for single sparks from courage. If your moonkin went guardian spec he could take all the strength sparks, if he has gear for it. Should be able to do it.

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    the * meant it was either or im afraid, the prot warrior can play affli or prot. As for the tanks, the prot isnt that comfortable doing the dancing either so DK and Monk is best setup in that sense.

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    Your gonna make life so much harder not having a DK there, does anyone have a level 90 DK? even if its badly geared, the mas grip really is so helpful.

    So you have no melees at all? you kinda need a melee for the strength, i mean a ranged can do it (maybe lock) but its a lot easier for a melee.

    Your saying your raid comp is:

    DK + monk tanks

    mage, mage, boomkin, lock, priest, hunter - dps

    priest, shaman - healers





    Ok well its still do-able, ull just have to play a bit better in getting the 4 ads together w/o a mass grip.

    Lock+druid soak courage sparks.
    Mage soak stre with blink+cauterize (just have him tank the strength as well)
    hunter soaking all the ragers, priest as backup.
    get your 2nd mage to get blink+cauterize as well, and he can tank anything that gets loose i guess as single backup


    When its the 4 rages, your best bet is to have a hunter trap down to root them as they all gather, once they are gathered, then start using 2x ring of frost > priest root > vortex etc...... you should be fine

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    we're trying currently with me as frost, so its now
    Prot
    BrM

    Frost DK
    Arcane x2
    Surv Hunt
    Shadow Priest

    Holy Priest
    Resto Shaman

    early tries atm, will update if we run into any more problems

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    Are you ccing every first wave? Like.. CC first wave, when second wave spawns, AoE down all 8 and then soak the 8? It's so much easier, allows more dps time on bosses and requires less soakers.

    Because it's always 5 waves then a gap we go

    CC
    AoE - Hunter Soak
    CC
    AoE - Mage Soak
    AoE - Hunter/Spriest Soak.

    Edit: I see you mean 10man - but the same thing works.
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    i'm in a 25man hc guild, as we cc 1 round of rages and once the 2nd wave comes out we aoe them down and have a single hunter pop deterrance and soak all of the rages. He can take all of the rages throughout the encounter on his own. on strengths and courages we have shadow priests, rogues and paladins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raxxed View Post
    Are you ccing every first wave? Like.. CC first wave, when second wave spawns, AoE down all 8 and then soak the 8? It's so much easier, allows more dps time on bosses and requires less soakers.

    Because it's always 5 waves then a gap we go

    CC
    AoE - Hunter Soak
    CC
    AoE - Mage Soak
    AoE - Hunter/Spriest Soak.

    Edit: I see you mean 10man - but the same thing works.
    why would u see the 1st wave?

    you kill 2 of them, then cc next 2, and AOE 4.

    Each wave you will have: 6 ragers, 2 strength 1 courage (or might be 3 stre).

    But the start of the fight, instead of a break ull have the boss's spawn, so frm the start of the fight ull have:

    2 rages - str - 2 rages - courage - 2 rages - strength ------ boss's ------- 2 rages - str - 2 rages - courage - 2 rages - strength ------- break ------- 2 rages - str - 2 rages - courage - 2 rages - strength ------- break ---------- think u have liek 3 or 4 breaks, then the adds dont stop.


    your only counting 5 rage spawns, so im totally lost what your saying........ also if ur AOEin 4 rages (2nd set) thats the same time courage spawns.

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    Your warlock can soak every single courage or every single strength and also take 2 more sparks throughout the fight

    For each Courage/Strength (depending on which you put him on) use the teleport (put portal at centre of room and go under a spark, hit teleport just as you see it flash) 30 second cooldown, no damage taken and will probably teleport right into an aoe healing ring of some sort :P

    Then throughout the fight use the Dark Bargain + UR + Shadow Bulwark to soak one or 2 that other players can't get or miss.

    Your Mages can do the same but with a 15 second cooldown (provided they don't blink the wrong way and end up in some bad stuff)

    Your Boomkin can do the same with Displacer beast.
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