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    Quick question

    Can an i5-3570 (no overclock) with a 7770 Vapor X 1ghz OC version max out Mists of Pandaria? How would it hold up in 5 mans and in Stormwind?
    Last edited by RicardoZ; 2013-01-23 at 10:11 PM.

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    It will do just fine at max settings. U shouldn't experience any problems.

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    Thank you, sir.

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    "Max" settings is sort of a vague statement. Will it do Ultra, with 16x Anisotropic and Ultra Shadows and SSAO with 60-70fps in Stormwind? No. Will it do most of that, with those things turned down a bit (Which you won't even really see/notice much anyway)? Probably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    "Max" settings is sort of a vague statement. Will it do Ultra, with 16x Anisotropic and Ultra Shadows and SSAO with 60-70fps in Stormwind? No. Will it do most of that, with those things turned down a bit (Which you won't even really see/notice much anyway)? Probably.
    I don't care about Shadows, I don't care about SHAO or whatever that new thingy is, and I don't have any idea what Anisotropic or Anti-Aliasing is/does so I'll probably turn them all off anyway. Same with stuff like water textures, weather effects, meh...I don't really care about it.

    The main stuff I care about is view distance (I want ultra), environment detail and ground clutter (I want ultra on both), and particle density (I want ultra).

    Do you think I could swing it with that setup?

    Also, am I doing something wrong the way I'm looking up parts? I'm looking on Newegg and Amazon and Best Buy and Micro Center but no matter which way I cut the pie it's coming out WAAAAAY cheaper to build via Cyberpowerpc than it is to buy all the stuff separate and build it myself. I was told I could save massive amounts of money by building it myself...am I looking in the wrong places for parts and is that why I can't get it to come out cheaper?

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    You might be? I really couldn't tell you without seeing what you're purchasing, and for how much. There is almost no way a prebuilt will be cheaper than building it yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    I was told I could save massive amounts of money by building it myself...am I looking in the wrong places for parts and is that why I can't get it to come out cheaper?
    Places like Cyberpower usually put in some really cheap parts such as PSU, cases, motherboard and so on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    Places like Cyberpower usually put in some really cheap parts such as PSU, cases, motherboard and so on.
    Well I've been looking up the same parts on newegg and ebay, amazon and best buy, etc. and it's always coming out cheaper to get it from Cyberpower. And I'm not really buying a "pre-built" per-se, I'm starting with a basic shell and selecting all the parts myself (except the GPU which I'm purchasing separately anyway).

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    Care to link us the build so we can check it out?
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    Again, I have no idea what to tell you without seeing the parts/costs. Just because it's from newegg/ebay/amazon/etc, doesn't gaurantee best price. You have to pick the RIGHT parts, too.

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    Let me be more specific, here's what I'm working with at Cyberpower:

    Case: Corsair Carbide 300R
    CPU: i5-3570 (No OC, stock heatsink and fan)
    Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-B75M-D3H Intel B75 (This one I honestly have no clue about)
    RAM: 2x4gb Corsair Vengeance
    GPU: Integrated Graphics (I'll be buying the graphics card separate because I got a special deal elsewhere)
    PSU: 500 Watts Corsair CX500 V2 80 Plus Certified Power Supply
    HDD: 500gb SATA-III 3gb/s
    Optical Drive: Standard 24x dvd rw
    Monitor: Buying separately
    OS: Windows 8, buying separately (They want $104, I know where I can get it for $75)

    Subtotal (including shipping) = $590

    +135 for GPU, +$80 for monitor, +$75 for OS

    GRAND TOTAL: $880
    Last edited by RicardoZ; 2013-01-23 at 10:56 PM.

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    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($58.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $492.82
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-23 18:03 EST-0500)

    $100 cheaper for pretty much the same parts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Motherboard: ASRock B75M-DGS Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($58.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Memory: Patriot Viper 3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($38.50 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
    Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($67.41 @ Mac Connection)
    Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($51.98 @ Newegg)
    Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
    Total: $492.82
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-23 18:03 EST-0500)
    So then I'm essentially paying Cyberpower $100 to glue the system together for me lol Which is a good thing because I have no clue where to even start on building it myself. I'd hate to spend the money and then screw it all up, so the extra $100 might be worth it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RicardoZ View Post
    So then I'm essentially paying Cyberpower $100 to glue the system together for me lol Which is a good thing because I have no clue where to even start on building it myself. I'd hate to spend the money and then screw it all up, so the extra $100 might be worth it.
    Well yeah, its $100 for something pretty much anyone can do in 1-2h.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    Well yeah, its $100 for something pretty much anyone can do in 1-2h.
    I'm not sure I'd consider building a gaming computer something "pretty much anyone can do"...I'm sure if you know how then it probably seems really easy. Hell, to me it's really easy to sit down and translate Neruda for my students, anybody with a verb book and dictionary should be able to figure it out in a couple of hours, right?

    Honestly, I'd rather just pay the extra to know it's getting done right instead of fumbling around and screwing it up myself. In fact, it's really only $25 for labor, since the other $75 is shipping.

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    I understand that it can look daunting for someone that has no experience with it, but it is very easy.
    It is like playing with Lego. And it is very hard to put something where it doesn't belong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by n0cturnal View Post
    I understand that it can look daunting for someone that has no experience with it, but it is very easy.
    It is like playing with Lego. And it is very hard to put something where it doesn't belong.
    I'm sure I could get the gist of it if I had the time/energy to put into it, but I just imagine a bunch of boxes and technical doodads showing up at my door and ending up spread across the floor while I stand there scratching my head like some kind of primate.

    Vs.

    Getting a box in the mail, taking the contents out, hooking up the monitor, and playing some games.

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    You could get 100$ worth of better parts? There are tons of DIY videos on youtube on assembling a computer. It's easy, educational and fun.

    Usually when I build something new for myself I take a case and goes wild on it with my dremel, modding the inside of it so that it fits my needs 100% in regards to cooling, Cable management, airflow etc. It's fun, I promise. Give it a try.

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    OS: Windows 8, buying separately (They want $104, I know where I can get it for $75)
    You can still get Win8 for $15 until Jan 31. I got 3 today, just to have some extra licenses.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chazus View Post
    You can still get Win8 for $15 until Jan 31. I got 3 today, just to have some extra licenses.
    Is that Windows 7 upgrade? Because I don't have Windows 7, I'm literally starting all over after having been on Mac for about the last decade.

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