'Twas a cutlass swipe or an ounce of lead
Or a yawing hole in a battered head
And the scuppers clogged with rotting red
And there they lay I damn me eyes
All lookouts clapped on Paradise
All souls bound just contrarywise, yo ho ho and a bottle of rum!
The reason I don't is because I don't want to work like a fool, like he has. He had to work hard to get where he is, If I wanted to be there, I'd just work smarter. Big difference. Of course it is how you view your life and what aspirations you have, but I don't need to go and buy a new car every 6 months that costs £600,000. I'm a smart man from a poor background, so I know when to be thankful, and not wasteful.
Also, please prove me wrong about how his entire success has been almost entirely by luck. If teenagers never bothered listening to half the shit they do, he wouldn't be as successful. He has very little skills (that I know of, I could be totally wrong) other then his music, and like all musicians, he'll have his day and then disappear.
If he was a talent businessman, had a passion for music and art then I'd say no more then "Kudos! You've done well!" but... Again, he has worked hard and not smart. Almost the entire world works hard, and look at most people, in debt, only go on holiday once a year to a shitty location, and are reliant on other people to keep them employed. He is in the same boat, I'm not, and nor is anyone else I know of that earns a good couple of million each year.
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The reason why I said Jay and not Eminem is because Jay is bigger then Em. Eminem is only known for rapping, and nothing more. Jay however built himself an empire and a brand name that is immediately associated with success. He just signed a deal to have the 40/40 club open up in pretty much every national airport in the US. To be blunt, he's probably the only artist in any popular genre of music that has surpassed it. He's been seen with Bill Gates and even had a joint interview with Warren Buffett about business. He's on the level of Madonna, U2, Elvis, and the Rolling Stones.
In fact someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe only Elvis has had more top singles then Jay-Z in the history of music?
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this is not, an american dream.
1) Load the amount of weight I would deadlift onto the bench
3) Crank out 15 reps
4) Be ashamed of constantly skipping leg day
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"Do you think man will ever walk on the sun? -Ali G
worlds ugliest man marries hot chick. I guess money isn't important.
Beer is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy -- Benjamin Franklin
Jayburner- Sargeras US - Probably the best drunken warrior you ever met, one time tank long time ago in Serenity Now
He's just as much the definition of the American Dream as my mom is. It's interesting how people either pretend it is rare, or that it is doesn't exist anymore...just shows how we in 1st world don't realize how lucky we are.
Gotta hand it to him. Making money out of thin air is quite a feat. Why is it still called "The American Dream"? US social mobility is not really living up to the name.
He's not the definition of an American Dream. He and his girlfriend hosted fund raisers for Obama during re-election campaigning raising a bunch of money from him. Those pictures were taken while he was visiting the President. I hate to break it to you there is nothing magical or American Dream about it. You know what is the American Dream. People who escape from other country's because they want to provide a better life for themselves or their family.
You do realize Obama taken thousands of pictures during fund raisers. If I had a billion dollars. I could sent a million over and had the President hang out with me. No one sole person is the American Dream. If you like Jay Z that's cool but don't try shove it down our throats that he's the meaning of American Dream just because that's the title of the thread.
also that is a horrible analogy that makes no sense, please don't do it again.
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He doesn't define the American dream any more than a single painting defines art.
I live my 'American' dream and grew up just as poor as he did (if not worse) but since I've never sold drugs, shot anyone, gone out of my way to sound uneducated to sell records, and I'm not black I don't think the president will be asking me to the white house any time soon.
You see, their morals, their code...it's a bad joke, dropped at the first sign of trouble. They're only as good as the world allows them to be. I'll show you. When the chips are down, these...These "civilized" people...they'll eat each other. See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve