SC2: HotS cinematic compared to ESO cinematic

[DeltrusDisc]

HotS: 1
ESO: 0

I believe you mean:

HotS: 124
ESO: 63
Both: 52

---------- Post added 2013-01-24 at 07:42 PM ----------

I thought the dragon was kinda shoehorned in so the cinematic would have something big and fighty. Still the best cinematic of the WoW ones so far, though.

Of Blizzard ones, that Illidan one, Arthas's Betrayal, The Inauguration and The Deal are my favorites. Not really a short list, but they're all faaar better than the HOTS one, not counting fidelity for the first three.

Perhaps, but it is a pretty big piece of lore and kind of shows Arthas/The Lich King going against "And I know, you will show restraint when exercising your great power."

So while yes, it certainly is a large chunk of the epic in the trailer, I still though the rest of the trailer, both before and after was epic. The Lich King himself is easily one of the best and most awesome-looking villains in WoW. :P Dat armor bro, dat armor.

[Repefe]

I am trying and trying to understand why ppl like the HotS but it just does not click ... There is no exciting action going on, it has no informative value, trailers from a year ago tell way more about what's going on in HotS than this intro video does and what else is there. ESO has no informative value either, but at least there is good action with the rogue getting to tower happening.

Maybe ppl haven't seen the previous trailers for HotS ? Only thing that comes to my mind.

[melodramocracy]

HotS one has more impact and better pacing, and therefore wins.

Neither have ANY resemblance to what you'll actually end up playing, but that seems to be a widely accepted thing when it comes to cinematics.

[Venziir]

I am trying and trying to understand why ppl like the HotS but it just does not click ... There is no exciting action going on, it has no informative value, trailers from a year ago tell way more about what's going on in HotS than this intro video does and what else is there. ESO has no informative value either, but at least there is good action with the rogue getting to tower happening.

Maybe ppl haven't seen the previous trailers for HotS ? Only thing that comes to my mind.

No exciting action? A giant wave of zerg crashes into a Terran town and starts destroying it with stunning ease, while the Terran unleashes all they have to defend with. No informative value? Other than the fact that Kerrigan suffers from schizofrenic, monstrous nightmares - I guess not, but it would be a shame if they spoiled too much in a trailer would it not?

As for the Breton Ranger, eh, I personally tire of the whole ninja act - it's been done to death.

---------- Post added 2013-01-24 at 09:07 PM ----------

HotS one has more impact and better pacing, and therefore wins.

Neither have ANY resemblance to what you'll actually end up playing, but that seems to be a widely accepted thing when it comes to cinematics.

What? You mean I *didn't* play as a chicken trying to escape the butcher in Fable 3? Blasphemy! :P

[DeltrusDisc]

No exciting action? A giant wave of zerg crashes into a Terran town and starts destroying it with stunning ease, while the Terran unleashes all they have to defend with. No informative value? Other than the fact that Kerrigan suffers from schizofrenic, monstrous nightmares - I guess not, but it would be a shame if they spoiled too much in a trailer would it not?

As for the Breton Ranger, eh, I personally tire of the whole ninja act - it's been done to death.

Aye, and zombies in popular culture right now. Good God, people don't realize that the media is just milking the zombie craze now.

They are *literally* everywhere.

But back on topic...

10 pages and over 12 hours in, I'm making a fairly safe and I think accurate statement in saying...

In general:
50% of mmo-champion prefers the HotS cinematic.
25% of mmo-champion prefers the ESO cinematic.
25% of mmo-champion likes both equally.

[LilSaihah]

What? You mean I *didn't* play as a chicken trying to escape the butcher in Fable 3? Blasphemy! :P

How do you request a custom title on these forums? Someone needs theirs changed to Chicken Chaser. <_>

[Venziir]

Aye, and zombies in popular culture right now. Good God, people don't realize that the media is just milking the zombie craze now.

They are *literally* everywhere.

But back on topic...

10 pages and over 12 hours in, I'm making a fairly safe and I think accurate statement in saying...

In general:
50% of mmo-champion prefers the HotS cinematic.
25% of mmo-champion prefers the ESO cinematic.
25% of mmo-champion likes both equally.

Yup, all we need now would be Ninja Zombies... Oh god that already exist doesn't it?

---------- Post added 2013-01-24 at 09:20 PM ----------

How do you request a custom title on these forums? Someone needs theirs changed to Chicken Chaser. <_>

Awwww good ol' Fable 1... Such fond memories *drifts off*....

[kail]

I am trying and trying to understand why ppl like the HotS but it just does not click ... There is no exciting action going on, it has no informative value, trailers from a year ago tell way more about what's going on in HotS than this intro video does and what else is there. ESO has no informative value either, but at least there is good action with the rogue getting to tower happening.

Maybe ppl haven't seen the previous trailers for HotS ? Only thing that comes to my mind.

What do you determine as informative value? Aliens are attacking a human city. Humans are getting massacred, the statue probably represents a man of import to the humans, and that female with bony wings is probably someone leading these aliens.
-I just summarized that for someone who has no clue about the Starcraft Universe. Sure details are missing but that event should be rather simple to grasp and give information about the game itself.

As mentioned before I'm more excited about ESO but this cinematic I find anything but informative. It was nothing but action which entertains but with little reasoning behind it. The average person would have to watch it several times to see what is really going on.

As for exciting action, that is overall opinion. Watching both cinematic on my home theater, HOTS felt more tense. This is probably because it had a larger scale to it, giving good camera shots on the individuals and the grand scheme of the invasion. The "dream" that everyone is complaining about has me wanting to find out more, hell they sold me despite not being that big of a SCII fan.

[DeltrusDisc]

Yup, all we need now would be Ninja Zombies... Oh god that already exist doesn't it?

I think I've heard of that before. =/

[Wass]

What do you determine as informative value? Aliens are attacking a human city. Humans are getting massacred, the statue probably represents a man of import to the humans, and that female with bony wings is probably someone leading these aliens.
-I just summarized that for someone who has no clue about the Starcraft Universe. Sure details are missing but that event should be rather simple to grasp and give information about the game itself.

As mentioned before I'm more excited about ESO but this cinematic I find anything but informative. It was nothing but action which entertains but with little reasoning behind it. The average person would have to watch it several times to see what is really going on.

As for exciting action, that is overall opinion. Watching both cinematic on my home theater, HOTS felt more tense. This is probably because it had a larger scale to it, giving good camera shots on the individuals and the grand scheme of the invasion. The "dream" that everyone is complaining about has me wanting to find out more, hell they sold me despite not being that big of a SCII fan.

I agree 100% with this post.

[Simca]

Wait, how did the WoL trailer ruin SC2? O.o All it really showed was a Marine getting suited up. Unless of course you mean like you thought the Marines were all good guys before just doing their job?

Ah, I forgot about that one (it was far worse than the HotS one too, lol); I was referring to the "extended trailer": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_E83GfWM-A

[Wass]

Ah, I forgot about that one (it was far worse than the HotS one too, lol); I was referring to the "extended trailer": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_E83GfWM-A

Ah yes. That is indeed VERY revealing.

[lordjust]

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One quick comparison I make though, is that the SC2 one does machinery AMAZINGLY well, like it looks real, pretty much, but Kerrigan's face at the end looks far more CGI than for instance the elf in the ESO trailer at the 5:00 mark. This elf looks real, to be honest. I'll link a picture of them compared and the trailers.

I think that's on purpose in the SC2 trailer. When comparing Kerrigan from the Trailer with Kerrigan from the in-game videos they basically look the same. Same goes for all other units. Sure they are more detailed in the cinematic but there isn't that much a difference.

For me the SC2 trailer is better because it looks great and when compared to the in-game graphics the difference is there but not so big as in TESO where the in-game graphics are completely different from what we can see in the trailer quality wise and from the feeling we get. The TESO trailer is very washed out, cold and dark but the game itself looks very bright with warm colors and in SC2 and the trailer I get the same vibe for the game.

[Kelimbror]

Aye, and zombies in popular culture right now. Good God, people don't realize that the media is just milking the zombie craze now

They are *literally* everywhere.

I don't remember Fox News and CNN having zombie specials.

Be glad they are everywhere, so that when the apocalypse happens more people will be prepared. Though I wouldn't mind being one of a few survivors to repopulate the Earth since I've been preparing for the inevitable for many years. Anything to get 90% of the posters on this site gone for good.


PS (this is for zombies, not politics)

[Valeron]

Haha, loved that video

[DeltrusDisc]

Ah, I forgot about that one (it was far worse than the HotS one too, lol); I was referring to the "extended trailer": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_E83GfWM-A

Oh yeah that one, forgot about that one.

[Repefe]

No exciting action? A giant wave of zerg crashes into a Terran town and starts destroying it with stunning ease, while the Terran unleashes all they have to defend with. No informative value? Other than the fact that Kerrigan suffers from schizofrenic, monstrous nightmares - I guess not, but it would be a shame if they spoiled too much in a trailer would it not?

As for the Breton Ranger, eh, I personally tire of the whole ninja act - it's been done to death.

Wave crashes into Terran town ... yawn I fought that in SC2. That's nothing new. If they used new units in the video ok, that would be something interesting, but nop ... good old siege tank being crushed by ultralisk, swarm swarming, siege tanks sieging, vikings firing missles ... we have seen all that. And Kerrigan having nightmares is kind of interesting, but we already saw that she will fight terran soldiers on the ship, that she will run away, join the swarm, will have to fight with other queens to get back on top ... all that is in previous trailers.

What do you determine as informative value? Aliens are attacking a human city. Humans are getting massacred, the statue probably represents a man of import to the humans, and that female with bony wings is probably someone leading these aliens.
-I just summarized that for someone who has no clue about the Starcraft Universe. Sure details are missing but that event should be rather simple to grasp and give information about the game itself.

As mentioned before I'm more excited about ESO but this cinematic I find anything but informative. It was nothing but action which entertains but with little reasoning behind it. The average person would have to watch it several times to see what is really going on.

As for exciting action, that is overall opinion. Watching both cinematic on my home theater, HOTS felt more tense. This is probably because it had a larger scale to it, giving good camera shots on the individuals and the grand scheme of the invasion. The "dream" that everyone is complaining about has me wanting to find out more, hell they sold me despite not being that big of a SCII fan.

Yeah, it can be interesting to someone who never touched SC2, but if you did and still find it interesting then I must be missing something. Maybe a sight of siege tank sieging does not tickle me the same way a true SC2 fan gets tickled. I would much more prefere trailer where Kerrigan would be in a room fighting her nightmares recalling how she was taken, rescured, raging about Mengsk, struggling to supress her old personality ... stuff like that. Generic action shots of old school SC units ... not impressed.

[Deleted]

HOTS wins in my book. I just can't stand movies with cheesy coincidences that try to entertain with acrobatic stunts. I didn't really see the main points going on in the ESO cinematic and wish they gave some soul to the characters. ESO's trailer reminds me of the many others from MMORPGS (Warhammer, TERA, etc) where the fact its an advertisement truly shows.

Still excited about the ESO game, but I wish they would have learned from WotLK and TOR how to make a cinema that makes sense.

Ohh god the Wotlk trailer...that's art.

Eh, I wouldn't call it insanely good - it's kind of a watered down mix of Alien(s) and Warhammer 40K with a touch of classic fantasy storytelling. That said, it works and there are some great characters in the franchise and I very much enjoyed playing through the various campaigns.

I'd say that it's on par with Ender's, yes I just went there.

If you mean the part where the Viking switched to land-mode to try to (lol) take on the Ultralisk, then that was him just trying to make sure he didn't lose a microsecond of bullets on the Ultralisk, obviously this was to no avail.

Minigun works just like a channeled spell, best start it off early.

[unholytestament]

And most importantly (although more of a game issue that cinematic's), look at how big that battlecruiser is. And yet, in the game it's the size of 2-3 tanks. As I said, it's more of a game issue, but that scene is one huge "immersion in this game is shit" sign.

So you didn't play the first Starcraft?

Or do you not remember the cutscene where a group of marines and the ugliest ghost ever are ambushed by hydralisks aboard a science vessel?

And I seem to recall Tassadar's carrier looking fucking enormous in the final cutscene of the SC protoss campaign...

[Wass]

Found out that This picture is in the HotS opening cinematic between 8-9 seconds.