5 reasons why Demon Hunters won't be a class in WoW

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There are many more models of what Demon Hunters are that all appeared in the burning crusade expansion. All of them use magic and all of them use weapons. Not all of them have the same form as illidan which was adopted as a warlock form. None of them are Samarai's beyond the fact that they use weapons and train.

And the pants they wear. When you look at a topless samurai and compare them to a demon hunter, they look somewhat similar.

[Wildmoon]

And the pants they wear. When you look at a topless samurai and compare them to a demon hunter, they look somewhat similar.

Not only samurais wear hakama. A lot of other practitioners in japanese wear it too. You can even see the same kind of pant DH wear in other asian country.

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Because a half naked person using curved swords augmented by demonic energy isn't the same as a Samurai. They don't even follow the same doctrine which is what makes a Samurai a Samurai. Not everything that uses swords and is good at using swords is a Samurai. None of the anime figures you mentioned are standard Samurai anyways nor do they use swords like Demon Hunters do.

They have similarities but they are not Samurai. A Demon Hunter relies on his training and magical augmentation for most of his skill. A typical samurai would rely just on their martial prowess. This line is blurred in anime but using anime as a basis for what a class "has to be" is silly. Because there are millions of different ways anime characters behave so anything can literally be said to be a Samurai.

Doctrin, schmoctrin. Nobody is talking about that, we're talking about the visuals.

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Not only samurais wear hakama. A lot of other practicioners in japanese wear it too. You can even see the same kind of pant DH wear in other asian country.

By saying that you already admitted that they share that feature. Give it up. Theres concept Art where they look pretty much like samurais.

[Wildmoon]

Doctrin, schmoctrin. Nobody is talking about that, we're talking about the visuals.

The most striking thing visually about samurai is their katana. DH's weapon is as different as you can get with the same type of weapon.

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Samurai
Heavy armoured.
Mostly depicted as a one bladed swordsman, but have been known to wield other weapons.
Bound by a code of honour and rules defending Japan's leaders.
A guardian.
A disciplined fighter.

Demon hunter
Wears little to no armour.
Duel wields fantasy demon weapons.
Mentally unstable due to excessive use of demon magic.
Corrupted.
Goes against the laws of their people to exact revenge or fight fire with fire.
A hunter of demons.
Not much discipline. When the going gets tough turns into an unstable demon.

Pretty much opposites IMO.

[Wildmoon]

By saying that you already admitted that they share that feature. Give it up. Theres concept Art where they look pretty much like samurais.

and that's why I am saying I don't know how they look like samurai. You mean pant is the only thing that made they look like samurai? It takes more than that if DH is really based on samurai.

[Deleted]

The most striking thing visually about samurai is their katana. DH's weapon is as different as you can get with the same type of weapon.

Just one post earlier you admitted they share the hakama.

[Wildmoon]

Just one post earlier you admitted they share the hakama.

and how is that have anything to do with this post? It still doesn't make the idea that DH was based on samurai true. Your argument is very flawed. If you are trying to make a point about hakama then you could say that DH is similar to jujutsu practitioner because they also wear hakama...

[rhorle]

And the pants they wear. When you look at a topless samurai and compare them to a demon hunter, they look somewhat similar.

If you have to use the words "some what" then it indicates that they aren't "Samurai". People wear pants all the time and are not confused for or called Samurai. http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Varedis.jpg?c=1 is wearing a skirt. So are http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Demon_H...aining.jpg?c=1 There isn't anything Samurai about them when they've appeared inside of WoW.

They may be inspired by Asian cultures but they are not Japanese warriors

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and how is that have anything to do with this post? It still doesn't make the idea that DH was based on samurai true. Your argument is very flawed. If you are trying to make a point about hakama then you could say that DH is similar to jujutsu practitioner because they also wear hakama...

They were clearly influenced by samurais, you already admitted that yourself.

[rhorle]

Doctrin, schmoctrin. Nobody is talking about that, we're talking about the visuals.

The visual of a Samurai is not blind folded and using glaives, it is also not typically one that has "cosmetic" demonic traits. Nor is a certain style of clothing Samurai only.

[Wildmoon]

They were clearly influenced by samurais, you already admitted that yourself.

What the heck? Do you even understand what people are saying?

[rhorle]

They were clearly influenced by samurais, you already admitted that yourself.

A hakama isn't a Samurai piece of clothing but is a style traditionally worn by Japanese males. Not all Japanese males are samurai and not all who wear a hakama are samurai. Using your logic all spell casters in WoW are Samurai because Samurai in anime sometimes wear robes...

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If you have to use the words "some what" then it indicates that they aren't "Samurai". People wear pants all the time and are not confused for or called Samurai. http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Varedis.jpg?c=1 is wearing a skirt. So are http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Demon_H...aining.jpg?c=1 There isn't anything Samurai about them when they've appeared inside of WoW.

They may be inspired by Asian cultures but they are not Japanese warriors

No they are not samurais, there are influences in them. Just like vrykul are not really vikings, and tauren are not really indians. Because wow is not the real world. Thought that was a given.

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A hakama isn't a Samurai piece of clothing but is a style traditionally worn by Japanese males. Not all Japanese males are samurai and not all who wear a hakama are samurai.

Samurais wore them, right?

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They were clearly influenced by samurais, you already admitted that yourself.

Stop back-peddling you know he's right. All he said was samurai weren't the only ones to wear them. They are traditional clothing for anyone in japan. I dont see what that's got to do with demon hunters as I am yet to see any demon hunter wear one. They just wear rugged torn pants from what i've seen.



This isn't a hakama.

[Wildmoon]

No they are not samurais, there are influences in them. Just like vrykul are not really vikings, and tauren are not really indians. Because wow is not the real world. Thought that was a given.

You don't even know what is samurai. You are trying to make a point that hakama is samurai's pant and DH wear the pant similar to hakama so DH was influenced by samurai. All of that are wrong. If you are looking for samurai based class in WoW then there's blademaster.

[rhorle]

No they are not samurais, there are influences in them. Just like vrykul are not really vikings, and tauren are not really indians. Because wow is not the real world. Thought that was a given.

Influenced by something doesn't make them something. If anything Demon Hunters are influenced by Asian cultures but are not directly influenced by the Samurai.

Samurais wore them, right?

So did non-samurais, so what is your point? Many classes in WoW wear similar styles of clothing does that make a mage a samurai as well?

[Anjerith]

It won't happen simply because they would be a Hero Class, something that came about and died with Death Knights. Too difficult to balance with the idea of being a "Hero" class and players just expect Death Knights and Demon Hunters to be stronger than the other classes.

Then, of course, there are the players that will whine and cry endlessly about a class being "too tuff".

So, no, it wont' ever happen. And it is player expectation that will keep it from happening.

[Krolikn]

The main thing blocking Demon Hunters is already existing classes that would be too similar. Spellcasting Rogues, oh no!

[Wildmoon]

It won't happen simply because they would be a Hero Class, something that came about and died with Death Knights. Too difficult to balance with the idea of being a "Hero" class and players just expect Death Knights and Demon Hunters to be stronger than the other classes.

Then, of course, there are the players that will whine and cry endlessly about a class being "too tuff".

So, no, it wont' ever happen. And it is player expectation that will keep it from happening.

The idea of hero class was that they have special origin wasn't it? I don't remember anything about them having to be stronger than other class.