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    Carring people in Heroic Sha of Fear and Will of the Emperor

    I know the top guilds can probably carry at least 1 DPS in 25 man heroic sha and will, but what about 10 man? Would it be much harder?

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    Depends on how competent the person being carried is.

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    Just gotta let the person die and 9 man it. So if you can do that amount of dps and healing to compensate for a 10th person then you'll have no problem.

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    Will of the emperor, wouldnt be too hard in 10man.
    Sha of Fear in 10man would be a fucking nightmare.
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    For heroic wote you could easily carry one guy, it's mostly execution based and as long as you do it properly the number requirement isn't that high. Sha is on an entirely different level, I suppose it miiight be possible for the very best guilds but assuming that said person is largely useless it'd be extremly difficult.

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    Dream paragon could probably manage it, if you have a few million gold handy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dumbfoundead View Post
    Depends on how competent the person being carried is.
    ilvl 490 melee dps

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    25man easily could carry H Sha kill. Probably ~2-3 people.

    10man doubtful given the fight requirements (unless the buyer is capable of some form of contribution (99% of the time they're not), but if they were dead the whole fight then extremely difficult).

    Both can easily carry Will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstg View Post
    ilvl 490 melee dps
    Unless he's bad how is he considered a carry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flalia4 View Post
    Unless he's bad how is he considered a carry?
    Only normal experience, no heroic

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    Don't see why not as long as he just sits on the boss as much as possible and hits him. DPS shouldn't be too bad that way. You could also just tell him what to attack. Basically, with an average ilvl 490, his dps should be sufficient to allow carrying provided he's pointed in the right direction as much as possible. I'm not 100% sure on the tactics for the heroic version of the fight, but if the concern is the enrage timer, then having him just sit on the boss should solve the issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mstg View Post
    I know the top guilds can probably carry at least 1 DPS in 25 man heroic sha and will, but what about 10 man? Would it be much harder?
    We 9 manned all of MSV this week, easily.

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    Technically against ToS but piloting the toon is always an option

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macanam View Post
    Don't see why not as long as he just sits on the boss as much as possible and hits him. DPS shouldn't be too bad that way. You could also just tell him what to attack. Basically, with an average ilvl 490, his dps should be sufficient to allow carrying provided he's pointed in the right direction as much as possible. I'm not 100% sure on the tactics for the heroic version of the fight, but if the concern is the enrage timer, then having him just sit on the boss should solve the issue.
    I think Will and Sha are about killing the adds?

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    Quote Originally Posted by esoterickk View Post
    25man easily could carry H Sha kill. Probably ~2-3 people.

    10man doubtful given the fight requirements (unless the buyer is capable of some form of contribution (99% of the time they're not), but if they were dead the whole fight then extremely difficult).

    Both can easily carry Will.
    1 carry on Sha would be VERY difficult, unless you have been farming it for a month or 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegoodrogue View Post
    1 carry on Sha would be VERY difficult, unless you have been farming it for a month or 2.
    Agreed. Can't carry anyone through Dread Spray and Huddle.

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    We could carry people through everything but Sha of Fear on heroic. 10 man Sha is impossible to carry an idiot/weak player at this time with our current gear levels UNLESS you play the buyer's character.

    25 man on the other hand could easily carry 1-2 people.

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    think biggest problem on Sha will be the outer shrines. If you just don't get this stupid panda down fast enough it's a wipe. If the carried player is not very good you will always wipe there.

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    Will of the Emporer most definitely, our first kill came with someone dead for about 75% of the fight.
    Empress also would be simple, we've even done it with 3 tanks just to reduce the chance of a tank getting gibbed, so dps requirement on that one is also low.
    Sha would be a lot more tricky, especially in p1, just b/c of how cackles would work, you'd have 2 dps on the boss while the rest are away killing the archer, so pushing him would take a bit longer, and at some point you might be overcome by the adds flinging the bolts at you. You would need stellar DPS from everyone, including tanks, and an atonement priest wouldn't hurt either, but even with all that, i'm not convinced you could do it. In phase 2 if they were still alive (doubtful), you would either want them to die asap, or not ever break them out of huddles just so ball passing wouldn't become an issue.

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    1/10 > 1/25.

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