Thread: Mage pom

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    Mage pom

    Hey, I wanted to know if you think that pom should be changed a bit or not.

    Personally I think it's too weak in comparison with other talents in general situations, but it's extremely powerful when timing cc / wanting to set up a cc chain.

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    PoM is used by Fire mages to set up large Combustions and by Frost to send out an extra Frostbolt or insta Frost Bomb. It's also an amazing spell for PvP to combine with Polymorph or Ring of Frost.

    The only spec not using it at the moment is Arcane because of Scorch 6-Charge camping, but it might become the best option again in 5.2 when Scorch's mana cost increases to make it useless for Arcane.

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    A good time to use it as Frost is during AOE when I'm getting a load of FoF procs, so I can instant cast Frost Bomb and not lose out on potential FoF procs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jasard View Post
    A good time to use it as Frost is during AOE when I'm getting a load of FoF procs, so I can instant cast Frost Bomb and not lose out on potential FoF procs.
    I do this too

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    Cooldown is too long, personally. 45 seconds would be better, although really I don't see much point in PoM period beyond fudging certain dps mechanics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    Cooldown is too long, personally. 45 seconds would be better, although really I don't see much point in PoM period beyond fudging certain dps mechanics.
    that and make pom spell mana free. its dps loss probably to take it as aracne :/

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    The ability is more likely to get nerfs than buffs if it's ever changed simply due to how exceptionally potent it is in conjunction with ring of frost in pvp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    The ability is more likely to get nerfs than buffs if it's ever changed simply due to how exceptionally potent it is in conjunction with ring of frost in pvp.
    Because apparently it's impossible to make PoM not work with RoF?
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    The problem with the whole tier is that the CD on both PoM and Ice Floes are too goddamn long, but using PoM is a small dps increase, so lowering cd of PoM is not an option as long as its a talent. Hence it should not be a talent, and there should be 3 talents that increase our movement in a way that each has different playstyle and have a relatively short cd(10-20 secs) or lower damage like with scorch.. Atm its more like play fire take PoM, play anything else take scorch, in PvE that is.

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    Would be awesome it if meant your next spell didnt eat stacks of charges or a proc. Guess it would be OP in PvP. Being able to throw in a barrage without eating your stacks every now and then would be cool.

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    PoM is nice to have on patchwerk fights. I fire 2 extra instant FFBs with Alter Time. But (such as Ice Floes) it´s not an option as soon as movement is involved (despite from a few steps to correct my position).

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    I thought it said mage porn...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    The ability is more likely to get nerfs than buffs if it's ever changed simply due to how exceptionally potent it is in conjunction with ring of frost in pvp.
    I think ring of frost is a channeled cast, and therefore cannot be made instant with PoM, same goes for the blizzard spell. I don't think its that good for arcane/frost, it's probably best suited for a fire mage since it can has a big effect on the damage combustion does. I'm not going to start a rant about the mage talents, that would be infinite.. :')

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    Ring of Frost is a spell with a cast time which is not the same as a Channeled spell. Our only channeled spells are Arcane Missiles and Blizzard. Everything else is either a spell with a cast time or an instant spell. Its use with Ring of Frost is one of the most amusing things in PvP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shangalar View Post
    Ring of Frost is a spell with a cast time which is not the same as a Channeled spell. Our only channeled spells are Arcane Missiles and Blizzard. Everything else is either a spell with a cast time or an instant spell. Its use with Ring of Frost is one of the most amusing things in PvP.
    evo is also channeled

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    Oh, you're right of course. I completely forgot one of the most important spells lol.

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    this thread looked like 'mage porn' on the main page
    I think i can give up choose talent in this level?
    because if i am not choose this level。 i can have 20% blood more than choosen..
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    Oh i kinda figured it was channeled because you do see this ring of frost before the cast is finished. I would prefer instant pyro over instant RoF tho :P

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    Its simple: Just make RoF Basecasttime 10 seconds and its fine. U cant use pom anymore and pvp is nerfed enough so we dont need other nerfs. *runs before the hits*

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