I pretty much said the exact thing in OP of the thread and within the first 20 responses. Thanks for refreshing my memory.
Who is advocating for an Alchemist class?Alchemist falls flat also as it is a class who is driven by a profession.
Why cant the orc warrior who took herb and alchemy be an "alchemist" archytype? Does he not know how to throw vials of the potions and elixers he brews? That would make him an "alchemist" class.
Actually (as has been stated by others) Mekkatorque invented Mechano Strider mounts, fought in tanks, and utilized quite a bit of technology when he battled. Let me know when warriors get the ability to summon laser beams from the sky.Has Geblin Mechatorque never thought of building a giant tank to tank or a robot? Geblin is the "HIGH TINKER" and he fights in melee range, what makes him so different from the warrior he is... maybe he uses the cloth hat from Gnomer? Or other on use trinkets?
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Well a major difference between a Tinker class and an engineering profession would be that the class would have abilities that scale as you level. You won't be stuck with a level 12 ability attached to an item that you can't use after your first day leveling.
Which is why a class and profession are two very different things.
Last edited by Teriz; 2013-01-27 at 11:56 PM.
ranger is not gonna happen, because blizz always goes out of their way to show us that rangers and sentinels are hunters.
tinker could happen, but if I were a dev I'd not make it happen. here's why:
1 - it doesn't make sense for a tinker not to be an engineer;
2 - it would be bad to force tinkers to take engineering involuntarily;
3 - whatever the tinker does could be incorporated into engineering, so you could have a rogue tinker, a tinker warrior, a technomage, et cetera.
I'd say this: instead of a tinker class, blizz should work more on making professions show in gameplay. if engineers could take out a mecha and shoot fire lazors instead of fireballs or hitting people with shredder saws instead of axes, people would stop asking for tinkers.
Warlorcs of Draenorc made me quit. You can't have my stuff.
Is a mage who picks up blacksmithing a warrior mage? No. Is a rogue who knows how to enchant things a conjuror? Again, no. Does it make sense to have a warrior who doesn't act as a blacksmith? Sure. A mage who doesn't know how to enchant? Absolutely. Engineering gadgets are mass produced. They have end users. Tinkering gadgets are tailored to the individual tinker. A tinker doesn't have to worry about whether something he makes will make sense to anyone else. He doesn't have to come up with instruction manuals or factor in the average arm lengths or number of fingers of potential users, or assume that some people might not immediately know the purpose of the little red button on the bottom of the gun. A common engineer would find it nearly impossible to reverse engineer, or even safely use, a tinker's equipment. A tinker would need an engineer's skill set to produce something simple and generic enough for the masses to use.
Last edited by Drilnos; 2013-01-28 at 03:20 PM.
If you were a dev, I'd recommend you play Torchlight 2 and the Engineering class and realize how awesome a Tinker class in WoW would be.
But to your reasons;
1. It makes sense. Think of an engineer like a mechanic who fixes things. Think of a tinker as a hero that uses technology as a weapon. Sort of like Iron Man.
2. A Tinker could take any profession they want. I see Shaman taking engineering, and warriors taking up tailoring. Ever see a warrior knit a dress?
3. You'll never see active skills, passive abilities, and cooldowns as a craft.
I'll do a write up of a Tinker class soon. Hopefully that convinces some people that it wouldn't be like the Engineering profession.
Last edited by Teriz; 2013-02-01 at 01:10 AM.
Both ranger and tinker look like really promising classes. I'd like a new non-magic ranged DPS already, instead of only having a hunter for this.
Ranger will never happen. Because Ranger are Hunters, with one exception...No Pets.
If you wanna play as a ranger, dismiss your pet...
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...ss-idea-(Long)
I want to be that kind of Ranger.
It will be a mail class IMO, and I agree with most of what you said, very nice speculation thread, super interesting read. Thumbs up
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