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    [Music] Need advice from someone who knows a thing or two about singing

    So I've been practicing singing power metal a good bit these last several weeks (don't ask >.<), but there is a specific area in which I'm struggling a lot. You see, power metal vocals tend to frequently get up into an octave that I have a lot of trouble with. I can technically reach it, but I almost entirely lose pitch control while I'm up there and it sounds very bad.

    So my question is, can I fix this through practice? Or is my voice just not compatible with that sort of singing? And if I can improve it, is there any way to train that which you find effective?

    Anyone who wants to make fun of me for asking this here, I really don't blame you. So poke away.

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    So my question is, can I fix this through practice? Or is my voice just not compatible with that sort of singing? And if I can improve it, is there any way to train that which you find effective?
    I'm no singing pro, but about singing and most skills in your life:
    Everybody has his limits. Michael Jackson could do 5 octaves or so, you probably won't be able to do this. But you can improve drastically by good practice. Training is always key, be it music, sports, art, or anything else. Somebody will be initially better at something with less training, somebody will just stop getting better at one point because he simply wasn't born with the ability to become as great at what he does. But training is always key, however talented you are.

    For example, I'm not a very great singer, but I'm talented musically, I play many instruments and I can "hear music" as people say. Back when I first tried to sing with a guitar, it was quite horrendous. But after the years of "practicing" (I'm not really trying hard, I only do it for fun for myself when I'm bored) my singing has improved drastically, including the big jumps into higher pitches you mention.

    I think you can achieve it if you have at least a little bit of singing talent, just don't give up. It takes time. Training your voice, or fingers for playing an instrument, etc, is like training for sports.

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    In power metal I've found that you need to find a "sound" and stick to it.

    Hitting high notes isn't always necessary. (Dragonforce's latest album is a good example of high notes being hit, especially in a live setting, but Pathfinder and to a lesser extent Blind Guardian rarely hit high notes)

    Stick to the octave you can do right, and that sounds the best. You'll enjoy yourself more, it'll sound better, and you won't fuck up your cordes.

    Having a voice coach may help you even out the octaves you can reach, but have trouble with, but it turn you into a different singer by "unlocking" elements you absolutely couldn't reach before.

    Good luck with it all in any case.
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    Great answers, both of you! Now I have another question.

    A big part of my practice every day is repeatedly singing to a couple of songs which have a lot of really high notes in them, and just going continuously until it hurts to even talk. I've been viewing it with the same philosophy as weightlifting: go until you fail, and pain is good. I figured if I just keep going like that, eventually it'd get easier.

    But after what Firebane said, now I'm wondering if pain isn't good? I guess it hadn't really dawned on me until just now that vocal chords probably don't work the same way muscles do. So, is it actually good to force myself past my "limit", or should I stop doing that?

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