No New Sha Weapons in 5.2+

[frogger237]

Maybe they have plans to use your upgraded sha touched weapon to create a legendary weapon...or at least to change it into something more relevant. Really does seem a waste if not.

Thats what I had always assumed.

[Cernunnos]

Blizz already said the next step is a prismatic socket for your weapon. It is not a helm enchant.

The prismatic socket is the 5.1 part of the quest. 5.2 adds a legendary meta gem.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=95346

I don't understand why you care if it's in your mainhand or offhand. 500 str is 500 str.

My point was, I will not be able to equip my currently gemmed 5.0 weapon if my offhand if i get a new 5.2 weapon and use it in my MH. since I can only have one version of the 500 str gem equipped, whether it is in the MH or the OH.

If I buy a new gem and put it in the 5.2 weapon, because it obviously superior to the 5.0 weapon I currently have, I am now forced to put either a exactly copy of the 5.0 weapon I currently have without a gem in it, or to use a weapon with an item level lower than my 5.0 sha touched weapon. Neither of which I currently have due to RNG. Well I do have one 463 weapon. But why would I use a 463 weapon in my OH when I have a better one?

This is assuming that the 5.2 raid drops new sha touched weapons rather than you simply upgrading them through some sort of quest or NPC.



Current set up 5.1
496 Shinka socketed with 500 str MH / 463 Goresoaked Headripper OH.

5.2 set up
- 522 Weapon with sha socket socketed with 500 str MH / 496 Shinka socketed with 500 str OH. Cant do this because I cant have 2 str sockets.
-522 Weapon with sha socket socketed with 500 str MH / 496 Shinka with no str socket OH. I can do this but requires me to get a second shinka.
-522 Weapon with sha socket socketed with 500 str MH / 463 Goresoaked Headripper OH. This is what I will have to do until something better comes along, even though I have a better weapon than a 463 to put in the offhand.

I just cant do it, since it is already socketed with the gem, and you cant remove the gem.

or the other option which is kinda weirdo. kinda OCD, seeing that empty gem socket in the main hand will be like it's laughing at me.
-522 Weapon with with no socket MH / 496 Shinka with str socket OH.

Should be able to remove the gem.

[Video Games]

The prismatic socket is the 5.1 part of the quest. 5.2 adds a legendary meta gem.

http://ptr.wowhead.com/item=95346




My point was, I will not be able to equip my currently gemmed 5.0 weapon if my offhand if i get a new 5.2 weapon and use it in my MH. since I can only have one version of the 500 str gem equipped, whether it is in the MH or the OH.

If I buy a new gem and put it in the 5.2 weapon, because it obviously superior to the 5.0 weapon I currently have, I am now forced to put either a exactly copy of the 5.0 weapon I currently have without a gem in it, or to use a weapon with an item level lower than my 5.0 sha touched weapon. Neither of which I currently have due to RNG.

This is assuming that the 5.2 raid drops new sha touched weapons rather than you simply upgrading them through some sort of quest or NPC.

I'm still not following. Put your gemmed sha touched in your offhand and put your new tot weapon in your mainhand without the gem. You still get the 500 str.

[Cernunnos]

I'm still not following. Put your gemmed sha touched in your offhand and put your new tot weapon in your mainhand without the gem. You still get the 500 str.

blanked and completely forgot about that option.

[Christan]

blanked and completely forgot about that option.

ohh! are they finally adding dual wielding for casters /paladins / druids?

yes i know you are talking about a specific class, but it won't work for everyone.

[Fenixdown]

you wont the thunderking normal weapons beat the 2/2 heroic weapons easily, 517 vs 522, the 522 wins, and if it is close, for sure the 528/535/541 totally blow them away i do think this is kind of silly, any new alts/players will have to do the first wrathion chapter questline but gain nothing from it if they have a weapon from the thunderking raid.

How do you figure that +660 to your primary stat loses out to a weapon that is 5 item level points higher? Heck, even the normal weapons (504) with a +660 primary stat are, at worst, on par with a 522 weapon. Secondary stat differential still does not compensate primary stat differential for pretty much every class in the game.

[Video Games]

How do you figure that +660 to your primary stat loses out to a weapon that is 5 item level points higher? Heck, even the normal weapons (504) with a +660 primary stat are, at worst, on par with a 522 weapon. Secondary stat differential still does not compensate primary stat differential for pretty much every class in the game.

Weapon dps is everything for a warrior. You'd be surprised.

[Cthulhu 2020]

I loved all the "Everyone will have legendary weapons!" crying... then this happens. GG whiners!

[Icaras]

Considering next tier drops 522 ilvl gear. yes your sha weapons are going to be obsolete pretty quick. Even the LFR versions of 5.2 weaps will be better lol.

You really think weapons will drop the 1st time through for most people, though? My monk is currenly on 12 gara'jal kills and STILL hasn't seen even one Gara'kal, Fist of the Spritbinder drop.

[Riptide]

you wont the thunderking normal weapons beat the 2/2 heroic weapons easily, 517 vs 522, the 522 wins, and if it is close, for sure the 528/535/541 totally blow them away i do think this is kind of silly, any new alts/players will have to do the first wrathion chapter questline but gain nothing from it if they have a weapon from the thunderking raid.

Weapon dps is everything for a warrior. You'd be surprised.

You'd be surprised how wrong you are.

DPS Scale factors t14-h fury
WPDS 7.0
Streg 3.13
Crit 2.83

Now let's use h- starshatter vs normal shinka (yes i know it's a 2 hander) Ignoring secondaries for simplicities sake, mainly because they are dependent on the rest of your gear. It's 257 wdps (1799 dps) vs 429 streg(1421 dps) and 320 crit(906dps) which is 1799 dps vs 2327 dps. Keep in mind this is also 6 ilvl difference, not 5.

Another thing of note is that wdps for the OH is around half of that of the mainhand so even if you managed to get a heroic weapon or thunderforged, this would be a fitting offhand for quite some time.

I mean realistically it's not going to matter. Since very few players are going to have 517 sha touched weapons going into 5.2 not to mention those same players will only be seeing normal loot for a few weeks.

[bals]

5.2 set up
- 522 Weapon with sha socket socketed with 500 str MH / 496 Shinka socketed with 500 str OH. Cant do this because I cant have 2 str sockets.
-522 Weapon with sha socket socketed with 500 str MH / 496 Shinka with no str socket OH. I can do this but requires me to get a second shinka.
-522 Weapon with sha socket socketed with 500 str MH / 463 Goresoaked Headripper OH. This is what I will have to do until something better comes along, even though I have a better weapon than a 463 to put in the offhand.

THERE ARE NO SHA TOUCHED WEAPONS IN 5.2
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and blizzard is not going to give you weapons that you upgrade every tier

[Cernunnos]

THERE ARE NO SHA TOUCHED WEAPONS IN 5.2
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and blizzard is not going to give you weapons that you upgrade every tier

It was either in the post you quoted or the one prior to that. That I said "if the weapons in 5.2 are sha touched" I didnt say the were definitely going to be. I was working with a hyperthetical situation in which there were.

[Softbottom]

They will add a quest to upgrade the weapon to a new itemlevel - the final quest will make it legendary quality. That's how it worked in the past and will work this time and will work in the future. You really think what you wrote? Think again.

Considering GC stated there is no sha touched weapons in 5.2 in a blue post which someone else linked in this thread. I did think before I wrote. It has already been noted their is no weapon upgrade of any kind on the sha touched weapons.

[killidan]

Couldn't care less...

If Sha touched weapons dropped from raid end bosses, then that would be cool, but I don't give a ... about smt that drops in LFR

[Softbottom]

How do you figure that +660 to your primary stat loses out to a weapon that is 5 item level points higher? Heck, even the normal weapons (504) with a +660 primary stat are, at worst, on par with a 522 weapon. Secondary stat differential still does not compensate primary stat differential for pretty much every class in the game.

Warriors say hello. I would use a 522 weapon over a heroic sha weapon 2/2 upgraded any day of the week. Every important ability is based off of weapon damage. A 522 item will have a higher weapon damage than a heroic 2/2 one. the 500str gem doesn't compensate in damage because crit is our best stat this xpac.