Don't let this discussion become a flame-fest. Keep it cool people, personal jabs are unacceptable.
Last edited by Spamor; 2013-02-04 at 10:16 AM.
Baron Ashbury has pity on you, but only so he can continue inflicting pain! Heals all nearby enemies and allies for 5% health every 1 sec.
Unholy is certainly viable even as is, and this is coming from someone that has played unholy almost exclusively since release of wrath. And i personally wont play frost ever, hate the clonky feel of it. And 5.2 patch will give us QoL changes which are welcome and probably some increased dps numbers so should be a good patch,
Yea this will be fun
Necrotics and general damage with good SR timing can lead to overwhelming healers and therefore kills.
You say SR doesn't proc reaping? Why pray tell does a ability that costs a Unholy Rune need to proc reaping?
Is it a viable spell in any situation, of course it is. Hits for the same as a crit obliterate for half the cost, hits for the most amount of damage of any ability as unholy and as I mentioned above you can totally setup kills in pvp, large necro stacks can mean that burst of SR at 35% will kill sometimes.
Compare tooltips you say? Surely you understand that tooltips update with your gear, so you might have a really good weapon for obliterate, but bad gear for the SR attack power scaling. How can you compare this?
Many bad questions about frost and soul reaper going on in this thread, a thread that asks the question about unholy's viability, how is frost and SR talk relevant?
Also in regards to "trading" runes for SR instead of Oblit or something else...you can essentially hit someone with both SR and Oblit in the same GCD. That five-second delay doesn't give instant gratification true, but you can time an Oblit to hit just as SR goes off and really burst the target. Then the next GCD reapply SR and repeat. I can do this all day as Blood and that spec doesn't even have the flexibility of four perma-death runes.
First off, theres no need to be hostile. My comment was specifically to the post that refers to using a pve tier bonus in pvp. It doesn't happen, especially not a 4 piece. Second, SR damage is TOTALLY worth using as 2h frost, especially in pvp. In pve it deals barely more than an obliterate but for half the rune cost. In pvp it should hit for just as hard ( when compared to obliterate) AND it ignores armor! What more could you want?
SR costs an unholy runes and unholy runes have nothing to do with reaping. Below 35% (Or higher if you can time burst with the detonation), you just swap a SR for a scourge strike.
You even question whether its viable in pve ( hint; its the highest damage per cast time ability for both unholy AND frost.)
SR us worth using in all cases provided you get it to proc. It deals more damage in pve AND pvp due to it dealing magic damage, and this isn't even mentioning how you can use it on people with higher than 35% health, burst them low, and let the detonation finish them off.
And it is fine to discuss frost in comparison to unholy in this thread. Its a valid point that because it is the alternative, it needs to be compared. However discussions about a pve tier bonus's effect on pvp is just silly.
the only people who complain about SR are 2H frostknights (the scum, to complain about that when they get everything else for them *damn T14 2p*)
so i inferred anything that looks like a complaint to be from frosts perspective =P